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Re: [kitten] [EXTERNAL] Re: Windows Intent to revive and implement IAKerb draft-ietf-kitten-iakerb-03

Luke Howard Bentata <lukeh@padl.com> Tue, 21 February 2023 00:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [kitten] [EXTERNAL] Re: Windows Intent to revive and implement IAKerb draft-ietf-kitten-iakerb-03
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> On 21 Feb 2023, at 11:44 am, Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 05:52:00PM -0600, Nico Williams wrote:
>> There are good reasons why Kerberos is still around; the shortcomings of
>> other systems are among them.  But there's been zero work in 30 years on
>> making Kerberos easy to deploy, orchestrate, and operate.  [...]
> 
> Ah, not to give offense to folks like Simo and Roland that have done a
> lot of work in that space.  I was referring to IETF work.

Not to mention Microsoft: authorisation data without a separate privilege service,* protocol transition, enctype negotiation, constrained delegation, AEAD in GSS, IAKERB, PKU2U, reply cache avoidance (DCE_STYLE), plus their contributions to anonymity and FAST.

* some may argue this isn’t an improvement on DCE!

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