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Re: [kitten] [Curdle] I-D Action: draft-ietf-curdle-des-des-des-die-die-die-03.txt

Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu> Mon, 26 June 2017 16:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [kitten] [Curdle] I-D Action: draft-ietf-curdle-des-des-des-die-die-die-03.txt
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On 06/25/2017 10:11 PM, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
>>>   [...] there may be additional logistical considerations
>>>   involved such as provisioning AES keys [...]

> (Jeffrey Altman wrote:)
> % In my opinion, such text is inappropriate for an RFC.  The deprecation
> % of the encryption type is a protocol action.  The RFC is not guidance
> % for system administrators.

Ben wrote:
> Can others please weigh in?

I don't think we need guidance for system administrators in this
document, and we don't appear to have any such guidance in RFC 6649.  I
am okay with including such guidance in an appendix, but I don't believe
it is a requirement for publication.

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