Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Experimental status of RFC 2307

Howard Chu <hyc@symas.com> Wed, 03 August 2011 18:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ietf-krb-wg] Experimental status of RFC 2307
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Sam Hartman wrote:
>
> I think that RFC 2307 can be an appropriate normative reference even if
> it is experimental.  The IETF has a procedure for such references.  If
> the working group believes that is the right reference to use, I will
> start tilting at process windmills. I think it unlikely any of them will
> turn into giants. Mostly, I need to walk through the argument based on
> our process documents with the IESG, and I expect that to be relatively
> easy to pull off.

What exactly are you referencing in 2307? (Sorry, haven't been paying close 
attention to this list in a while.) I think most sites moved to RFC2307bis, 
and there's still this later revision to consider:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-howard-rfc2307bis-02.txt

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