Re: Late IPR disclosure on RFC7024 - Opinions ?

"Thomas D. Nadeau" <tnadeau@lucidvision.com> Fri, 24 October 2014 12:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: Late IPR disclosure on RFC7024 - Opinions ?
From: "Thomas D. Nadeau" <tnadeau@lucidvision.com>
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> On Oct 23, 2014:6:08 PM, at 6:08 PM, Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> wrote:
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> Ok .. I only based that statement on few recent requests from chairs asking explicitely only authors to state the IPR knowledge of their docs.
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> To Tom's point if this is "ill advised and strongly discouraged" to talk about IPR on the lists what is this thread all about then ? Why it has been even started ? To blindly say yes or no to content of the IPR disclousure no one posseses any knowledge of ? 

	Discussing the IPR policy itself is cool, but the specifics of particular patents has been discouraged. 

	—Tom


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> r.
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> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com <mailto:martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com>> wrote:
> Robert
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> Le 23/10/2014 21:22, Robert Raszuk a écrit :
> Chairs normally ask only authors for IPR statement.
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> I do not believe this is the norm.
> IETF IPR policies concern a broader set of people than "authors".
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> -m
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