Restricting front page authors with xml2rfc

Ben Niven-Jenkins <ben@niven-jenkins.co.uk> Wed, 07 December 2011 01:26 UTC

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Robert,

On 7 Dec 2011, at 01:03, Robert Raszuk wrote:

> Hello Ben,
> 
> I am not aware about any former draft/rfc where there are "zombie authors".
> 
> In most documents I have authored section 8 is directly populated from the xml header. So even technically I am keen on better understanding how xml2rfc conversion tool can list 4 authors in the header and 8 in the section 8.

There is no way to do it with the standard xml2rfc package. The following e-mail contains a patch to xml2rfc which adds a new role of "notfirstpage" to achieve the effect.

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/xml2rfc/current/msg02994.html

Ben

> 
> And that is very different from contributors section or separate section listing the authors or co-authors of the document.
> 
> Best regards,
> R.
> 
> PS. The common convention during the merge if sigma of authors is greater then 5 is to just leave editors of the documents undergoing merge - here we are observing a bit different phenomenon.
> 
> 
>> Robert,
>> 
>> On 7 Dec 2011, at 00:13, Robert Raszuk wrote:
>> 
>>> Support.
>>> 
>>> However for clarity and future reference perhaps it would be good
>>> to document the process of removing 4 authors from the header of
>>> the draft and only leaving them in section 8. In particular Yiqun
>>> and IJsbrand being original co-authors and contributors to the
>>> idea.
>>> 
>>> Even if this is a result of merge with
>>> draft-rekhter-mvpn-wildcard-spmsi-04.txt removing original authors
>>> of the idea seems odd.
>> 
>> I don't know the specifics for this particular draft as I wasn't
>> involved in writing it or any of the drafts that were merged together
>> to form it but as I'm sure you know
>> 
>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/policy.html#policy.authlist
>> 
>> states the policy of no more than 5 authors on the front page and
>> that they "should be the lead author(s) who are most responsible for
>> the actual text" so my assumption is that the authors listed on the
>> front page of draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-wildcards-00 are those "most
>> responsible" for the text of the combined draft rather than
>> necessarily those "most responsible" for the original idea(s).
>> 
>> If anyone feels strongly about only being credited in the "Authors"
>> section and not on the front page itself they should bring it up with
>> me privately offline.
>> 
>> Regards Ben
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thx, R.
>>> 
>>>> Colleagues,
>>>> 
>>>> This e-mail is the start of a 2 week WG Last Call for
>>>> draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-wildcards-00.
>>>> 
>>>> Please read the draft and provide any comments you may have.
>>>> 
>>>> Feedback should be provided to the mailing list and/or the
>>>> authors.
>>>> 
>>>> Last Call ends at midnight PST on the 20th December.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Ben
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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