Re: [Lager] Next Steps for LAGER

Wil Tan <wil@cloudregistry.net> Sat, 27 February 2016 07:40 UTC

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From: Wil Tan <wil@cloudregistry.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2016 18:39:23 +1100
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Subject: Re: [Lager] Next Steps for LAGER
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On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>
wrote:

> On 26 Feb 2016, at 4:26, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
>
> On 2016/02/26 14:35, Yoshiro YONEYA wrote:
>
> <no hat>Given that almost everything is now developed using JSON instead
> of XML, it would be much better to have a clear specification on how to
> implement the XML-JSON-XML mapping, instead of everyone having his own
> interpretation of the mapping. Vcard-xcard-jcard was done similarly.
>
> +1
>
> I agree that we want a single JSON mapping, not many. And I agree that a
> lot of stuff these days is done using JSON, not XML. But my guess is that
> LAGER data won't be as widely used as Vcard-xcard-jcard.
>
> of course.
>
> And there must have been some reason for why it was started with XML
> (which I don't know, but would like to know).
>
> So if there are already people looking around how to do this in JSON,
>
> yes. already.
>

It is a fairly lightweight and simple transformation specification, so if
there's a use case for it I would vote for the draft to be taken on.

.wil

Marc.
>
> then it makes sense to nail it down. But starting this work just based on
> the hunch that somebody is eventually going to use some JSON for it would
> be the wrong thing to do in my opinion.
>
> Regards, Martin.
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