Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: Moving RFC911 to Historic

[Greg Skinner <[e-mail]>]

AB,

My understanding is that Unknown is a default status, given to documents that don’t fall into any of the other categories.  You can see this by clicking on the Uncategorized link <https://www.rfc-editor.org/search/rfc_search_detail.php?sortkey=Number&sorting=DESC&page=All&pubstatus%5B%5D=Unknown> from the RFC Editor page, then clicking on Additional Criteria.

Some of the documents on that list were published after the IETF came into existence.  The most recent one is RFC1125, dated November 1989.

Regards, Greg

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:53 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> I don't think it is UNKNOWN, many IT participants know RFC911.  I think it is in a wrong place to be stated unknown, it SHOULD be in a KNOWN status.
> However, any document is known by the author(s) and readers, why did IETF make such status while it produces documents for technology. 
> Finally, I don't mind if any old document goes to historic, because in the end we still will remember important authors and important documents.
> 
> Best Regards
> AB
> 
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 2:22 AM Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In my opinion, the IETF, and therefore the IESG, has no right to
> change the status of this RFC, which is dated 1984, two years before
> the IETF existed.
> 
> I believe that the status of many early RFCs should be reviewed,
> but by the RFC Editor function, not by the IETF. Probably, Historic
> is the correct status for most of them. However, it isn't an urgent
> matter as we have managed for the last 35+ years with these RFCs
> unclassified, and we can certainly wait until the new RFC Editor model
> is in place. This will provide a proper mechanism to develop policies
> such as "what to do about the 904 RFCs with status UNKNOWN".
> 
> Regards
>     Brian Carpenter
> 
> On 21-Jan-22 11:33, The IESG wrote:
> > 
> > The IESG has received a request from an individual participant to make the
> > following status changes:
> > 
> > - RFC911 from Unknown to Historic
> >      (EGP Gateway under Berkeley UNIX 4.2)
> > 
> > The supporting document for this request can be found here:
> > 
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-rfc911-to-historic/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-rfc911-to-historic/>
> > 
> > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
> > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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> > 
> > The affected document can be obtained via
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc911/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc911/>
> > 
> > IESG discussion of this request can be tracked via
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-rfc911-to-historic/ballot/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/status-change-rfc911-to-historic/ballot/>
> > 
> > 
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