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Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: Moving RFC911 to Historic

Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 21 January 2022 14:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: Moving RFC911 to Historic
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On January 20, 2022 at 7:22:50 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:


Brian:

Hi!

> In my opinion, the IETF, and therefore the IESG, has no right to
> change the status of this RFC, which is dated 1984, two years before
> the IETF existed.

Definitely a good topic for discussion.

However, I wonder how other RFCs-of-the-time (RFC904, for example)
were reclassified as Historic.  Unfortunately, there's no history in
the datatracker, and I couldn't find relevant information in the
archives.  Maybe someone here remembers.

I'm not saying that if we could do it before we should do it
again...just curious.  Also, that history may provide insight on a
general way forward.


Thanks!

Alvaro.

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