Re: [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis-02

Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 26 September 2022 07:54 UTC

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From: Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:53:45 +1300
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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] [art] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis-02
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Martin,

I asked exactly that in reply to Roy's comment; still waiting. However, I
have been told off-list that parsing the syntactic sugar is not an issue
(indeed, it's trivial for a simple parser, as my patch to wget shows).

Regards,
    Brian Carpenter
    (via tiny screen & keyboard)


On Mon, 26 Sep 2022, 18:24 Martin J. Dürst, <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> wrote:

> On 2022-09-19 17:56, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
> > I believe too that IPv6 fundamentally needs the capability to address
> LLA (address types) in applications.
> > Maybe proposed is not the best way. Is it possible to hear alternatives
> from everybody who said "No"?
>
>  > Eduard
>
> I definitely agree with Edward here.
>
> I remember that in an earlier round of discussions, Brian told me which
> browser supported the syntax and how to use it (I seem to remember it
> was for configuration of wireless boxes,...), and that made sense to me.
>
> Looking at the current discussion, it seems that the 6MAN WG figured out
> what would work best for them, without really listening to the people
> working on the relevant applications (browsers). This should have been
> much more of a collaborative effort, with both sides ready to compromise.
>
> To me, the questions are essentially:
> - To the 6MAN WG: Would you be ready to go for another syntax (choice 3
> or 4 in Appendix A or variants thereof) if the browsers agreed to
> implement it?
> - To the browsers: Would you ready to implement this feature if it came
> with a more compatible syntax?
>
> Hope we can hear from both sides (multiple parties each) soon.
>
> Regards,   Martin.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
> > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2022 7:33 AM
> > To: Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>; Martin Thomson <
> mt@lowentropy.net>
> > Cc: art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis.all@ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org;
> last-call@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [art] Artart last call review of
> draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis-02
> >
> > Roy,
> >
> > On 17-Sep-22 08:48, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> >>> On Sep 16, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Martin Thomson via Datatracker <
> noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >
> > <snip>
>