Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] [DNSOP] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis-10

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@icann.org> Wed, 19 October 2022 14:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Last-Call] [Ext] [DNSOP] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis-10
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On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:58 AM, Ron Even <ron.even.tlv@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. whis is this an informational RFC and not a standard track RFC. 

That's a reasonable question with a simple answer: because the WG changed its mind on what the status of this protocol should be. RFC 5933 describes a national standard that is thinly deployed. At the time, it was necessary to have the protocol on standards track; now it no longer is required.

> 2. What is requested from IANA. ths text you wrote and I copied is not a directive to IANA that is clear

You are correct that the IANA Considerations section is quite unclear, and needs to be clarified before the IESG considers it.

--Paul Hoffman