Re: [lemonade] WGLC Notifications

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Wed, 07 May 2008 10:58 UTC

Return-Path: <lemonade-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: lemonade-archive@optimus.ietf.org
Delivered-To: ietfarch-lemonade-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664703A7104; Wed, 7 May 2008 03:58:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Original-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: lemonade@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9277C3A69D7 for <lemonade@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 7 May 2008 03:58:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.607
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.607 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_12_24=0.992]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cHWEqoCJA9N3 for <lemonade@core3.amsl.com>; Wed, 7 May 2008 03:58:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rufus.isode.com (rufus.isode.com [62.3.217.251]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A766E3A6A13 for <lemonade@ietf.org>; Wed, 7 May 2008 03:58:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [192.168.0.11] ((unknown) [62.3.217.253]) by rufus.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPA id <SCGLXwA4EcIr@rufus.isode.com>; Wed, 7 May 2008 11:58:40 +0100
X-SMTP-Protocol-Errors: NORDNS
Message-ID: <48206629.5020305@isode.com>
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 15:07:37 +0100
From: Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
To: Randall Gellens <randy@qualcomm.com>
References: <C433D1E5.1AB12%eburger@bea.com>
In-Reply-To: <C433D1E5.1AB12%eburger@bea.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Cc: lemonade@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [lemonade] WGLC Notifications
X-BeenThere: lemonade@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Enhancements to Internet email to support diverse service enivronments <lemonade.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lemonade>, <mailto:lemonade-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:lemonade@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:lemonade-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lemonade>, <mailto:lemonade-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: lemonade-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: lemonade-bounces@ietf.org

Eric Burger wrote:

>Work Group Last Call for Lemonade Notifications Architecture,
>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lemonade-notifications-08
>starts now and ends 5 May 2008.
>
The draft is in much better shape now.

Some comments below:

>     *    NF and DF:  When internal to the mail store, these are
>     typically implemented using Sieve and hence a Sieve management
>     protocol is used for client modifications.  See [IMAP-SIEVE] and
>     [MANAGE-SIEVE] for more information.  When the NF is within a
>     notification server, it is out of scope of Lemonade.

I don't think [IMAP-SIEVE] is relevant in case of NF or DF.
Unless NF is invoked on message flag changes, etc.

>     Note that when implementing DF using Sieve, the 'enotify'
>     [SIEVE-NOTIFY] and 'variables' [SIEVE-VARIABLES] Sieve extensions
>     are needed.

If NF is generating notifications on mail delivery, than 'enotify' + 
'variables' is also needed there.
If NF is generating notifications both on mail delivery and IMAP events, 
then 'enotify' + 'variables' are *only* needed in NF.

> 4.  Push Email
>     
>     A good user experience of "push email" requires that when
>     "interesting" events occur in the mail store, the client is informed
>     so that it can connect and resynchronize.  The Lemonade Profile
>     [LEMONADE-PROFILE] contains more information, especially in Section
>     4.1.2.

I can't find section 4.1.2 in draft-ietf-lemonade-profile-bis-08.txt.
/*
*/

_______________________________________________
lemonade mailing list
lemonade@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lemonade
Supplemental Web Site:
http://www.standardstrack.com/ietf/lemonade