Re: [lisp] LISP Use Cases

Damien Saucez <damien.saucez@gmail.com> Sat, 15 August 2015 20:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lisp] LISP Use Cases
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Hello,

I understand that multicast and nat traversal are potentially required in all use cases, but the "must support" sounds extreme to me. Are they hypothetical requirements or real demand from the market targeted by LISP, new version ?

Damien Saucez 

> On 12 Aug 2015, at 19:44, Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com> wrote:
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> 
> On Aug 12, 2015 10:22 AM, "Dino Farinacci" <farinacci@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, where but multicast sources as well as multicast receivers are moving. There are severl military applications for this use-case.
> 
> Agree
> 
> Stig
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> >
> > Dino
> >
> > > On Aug 12, 2015, at 10:20 AM, Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree we need to consider multicast. There are people that want to do multicast over LISP. Some are already doing it. This also includes mobility.
> > >
> > > Stig
> >
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