Re: [LOOPS] Results of the LOOPS side meeting May 2020

Hi Carsten, 

The updated version looks better. I see that you integrated the proposal for adding a milestone for the opportunities spec. Thanks 

I still have the following (minor) comments: 

(1) I suggest we simply go for: s/network structures/networks

Not sure how "structures" should be interpreted.

(2) I'd like to be explicit that "multipath" may be a future work. It would be cool if we can add the following to that part: "and is left for future consideration."

(3) The opportunities doc will be an output of the WG. What we need to discuss as per (https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/support-documents/) is whether we plan to publish it as an RFC. I suggest to make at least this change:

s/as an output of the WG/as an RFC.

We can even have an explicit text saying that the WG will decide that in due time.

(4) I suggested to make this change "s/LOOPS specification/LOOPS specification(s)" because I'm not sure yet if we can go for one single spec or have a core spec + Encap option spec. 

Similar to (3), we can decide now or leave this decision to be made during the lifetime of the WG. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org]
> Envoyé : lundi 8 juin 2020 18:41
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN
> Cc : loops@ietf.org
> Objet : Re: [LOOPS] Results of the LOOPS side meeting May 2020
> 
> Hi Med,
> 
> thank you for these proposals.  I had a bit of a hard time integrating
> some of them, because they don’t come with a rationale — sometimes the
> change seems to be a bit out of character with the charter.
> 
> Please have a look at https://github.com/loops-
> wg/charter/commit/6336fc92ea28733e61ca920d9822cb74add17ec2 and tell me
> if you think any of the other changes are essential.
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
> 
> 
> > On 2020-06-04, at 12:01, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
> >
> > Hi Carsten,
> >
> > Thank you for reflecting the outcome of the discussion in the
> proposed charter text.
> >
> > FWIW, you may find some change proposals at:
> https://github.com/loops-wg/charter/pull/3/files
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> >
> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> De : LOOPS [mailto:loops-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Carsten
> >> Bormann
> >> Envoyé : jeudi 4 juin 2020 02:16
> >> À : loops@ietf.org
> >> Objet : [LOOPS] Results of the LOOPS side meeting May 2020
> >>
> >> Thank you all for participating in the May 26 side meeting.
> >> I have updated the charter proposal with the results of the
> >> discussion:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/loops-wg/charter
> >>
> >> This reflects embracing ECN both for the end-to-end flows and for
> the
> >> path segment, as well as cleaning up the milestones to a single
> >> deliverable (which might or might not be multiple documents; I
> don’t
> >> think the charter needs to nail this down).  Goals for FEC support
> are
> >> scaled down, but FEC stays in as part of the first deliverable.
> >>
> >> I have also moved the “discussion” section to a separate file.
> >>
> >> Please have a timely look as the charter will be one of the inputs
> to
> >> the BOF process — we need to have a solid BOF proposal by June 12.
> >>
> >> Grüße, Carsten
> >>
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