Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title?
"Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl> Thu, 06 February 2020 14:13 UTC
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From: "Prof. Diego Dujovne" <diego.dujovne@mail.udp.cl>
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2020 11:13:11 -0300
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To: Alexander Pelov <a@ackl.io>
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Subject: Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title?
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All, My vote is A1 B5. Regards, Diego Le jeu. 6 févr. 2020 à 11:01, Alexander Pelov <a@ackl.io> a écrit : > Hi all, > > Thanks Dominique ! > > (chair hat off) > > A side observation - I think that SCHC cannot be changed at that point, as > it has already been used across other organizations and standardisation > bodies. So, that ship has definitely sailed, and SCHCF is not an option in > my opinion. > Another observation - although I feel that we might come up with something > different, I do not have problems with the current title. > > Then, on the point of "can SCHC become a noun?" - is something I am not > sure we can decide. How does something stop being an acronym and becomes a > widely-accepted term? > For a short example - take a look at the RFC page of Wikipedia still > states that RFC means "Request for Comments" ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request_for_Comments ). > Also, I feel that for the sake of a title, it is not worth it to have to > explain every time that SCHC is not an abbreviation, but it used to mean > Static Context Header Compression, but because we have also fragmentation, > we made it a noun. > In all future references I personally will be referring it to The SCHC > standard, or RFC 8724. I don't expect it to ever get into a long discussion > with anyone about what is in the title ;) > > I would therefore vote for a simplicity - A.1. > > On the title, I actually like the new proposals, and if need be would go > with a variant of B.1, where SCHC is expanded; > "Generic Framework for Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) and > Fragmentation" > > > So, in order of preference, I would add: > *A.1 SCHC is Static Context Header Compression* > *B.5 Generic Framework for Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) and > Fragmentation* > *B.6 Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) and fragmentation for LPWAN, > application to UDP/IPv6 * > > Cheers, > Alexander > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:51 PM <dominique.barthel@orange.com> wrote: > >> My vote is for A.4 B.1 >> Best regards >> >> Dominique >> >> De : lp-wan <lp-wan-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Dominique Barthel < >> dominique.barthel@orange.com> >> Date : Thursday 6 February 2020 10:55 >> À : "lp-wan@ietf.org" <lp-wan@ietf.org> >> Objet : [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? >> >> Hello all, >> >> This was discussed yesterday at the interim meeting and I want to give >> everybody a chance to chime in. >> The SCHC draft is currently in AUTH48 stage, with the RFC Editor, and now >> is the time to do the last editorial changes. >> >> One thing we want to do right is the RFC title. It currently says "*Static >> Context Header Compression (SCHC) and fragmentation for LPWAN, application >> to UDP/IPv6*". >> We want to change it for a better title, one that reflects the most >> important contributions of this RFC. >> >> - I believe the UDP/IPv6 section is secondary, it's more of an >> example of application. Having UDP/IPv6 in the title distracts from the >> fact that the rest of the draft is a generic mechanism, IMHO. >> - We have a little tension between using SCHC as an acronym >> (expliciting Compression) and the use of expressions like "'SCHC >> Fragmentation" and "SCHC Compression". >> - Thoughts have been expressed that the applicability of the generic >> SCHC algorithm is not limited to LPWANs, therefore it should not appear in >> the title. The rest of the text could still say that "SCHC was originally >> developed with LPWANs in mind". >> - Thoughts have been expressed that "static context" is a >> distinguishing feature, and as such, it should stay in the title. >> >> Can I please get your votes about the following two points: >> >> A) "SCHC" >> A.1 remains an acronym meaning "Static Context Header Compression", and >> we live with the tension described above. >> A.2 becomes the acronym to mean "Static Context Header Compression and >> fragmentation", even though the F does not show in the acronym >> A.3 becomes SCHCF and means "Static Context Header Compression and >> Fragmentation", and we will later figure a pronunciation for it. >> A.4 becomes a proper noun, a name that is not spelled out. The text can >> still mention that the name originated as an acronym for "Static Context >> Header Compression". >> >> B) RFC title: >> B.1 "SCHC: generic framework for header compression and fragmentation >> using a static context" >> B.2 "SCHC: static context header compression and fragmentation for >> Low-Power Wide Area Networks (LPWANs)" >> B.3 ""Static Context Header Compression and fragmentation (SCHC)" >> B.4 ""Static Context Header Compression and fragmentation (SCHC) for >> Low-Power Wide Area Networks (LPWANs)" >> B.5 suggest your own! >> >> Your votes by the end of the week would be very much appreciated! >> Thanks >> >> Dominique & the co-authors gang >> >> _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc >> pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Laurent Toutain
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Carles Gomez Montenegro
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Arunprabhu Kandasamy
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? dominique.barthel
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Ana Minaburo
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Alexander Pelov
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? dominique.barthel
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Olivier Gimenez
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Juan Carlos Zuniga
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Julien CATALANO
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? Ivaylo Petrov
- Re: [lp-wan] SCHC RFC-to-be title? dominique.barthel
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