Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction Draft Redux]
Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Sun, 03 February 2019 20:37 UTC
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Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2019 21:37:26 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction Draft Redux]
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I fully agree and support proceeding with draft-li-dyanmic-flooding and to include protocol extensions in it for centralized topology propagation as well as basic hooks like "execute dynamic protocol number X" for distributed calculations. However one may observe that separate distributed algorithms may define their own protocol extensions and they should not break the above in any way. Then there is already some requirements of building two disjoined topologies in any rich ECMP DC fabric one say for primary paths the other for backup flows. (Case of active-active dual streaming applications). Question arises if this would be addressed also as part of basic spec, be combined with one or many of distributed algorithms or will require yet one more document which in turn will "extend" all of the above ? And before anyone suggests multi instance approach with logical or physical link separation it is not the right direction here. If anything perhaps MTR or SR come a bit closer. Kind regards, Robert. On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 9:14 PM <tony.li@tony.li> wrote: > > I think that this discussion would be greatly clarified if we clearly > separated the discussion between > > a) the algorithm for computing the flooding topology, and > b) the signaling to indicate how to proceed. > > I think that we are all in agreement that the algorithms can and should be > separated from the signaling. > > I think that we are all in agreement that each algorithm should be > independent. > > I’m of the opinion that the centralized signaling is a bit more extensive > than the signaling for the distributed mode, but that there is also > considerable overlap and that things would > be unnecessarily redundant if we were to separate them. I believe that we > are not in disagreement about the basics for the distributed signaling. > > If you disagree with this, please clearly articulate why you feel the > signaling should be separated. > > Regards, > Tony > >
- [Lsr] Flooding Reduction Draft Redux Christian Hopps
- [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction Draf… Christian Hopps
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … John E Drake
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Tony Li
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … David Allan I
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Peter Psenak
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Lsr] Flooding Reduction Draft Redux Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Lsr] Flooding Reduction Draft Redux Christian Hopps
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Naiming Shen (naiming)
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Jeff Tantsura
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Aijun Wang
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … li zhenqiang
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … David Allan I
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … tony.li
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … David Allan I
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- [Lsr] 答复: Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Lizhenbin
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Christian Hopps
- Re: [Lsr] 答复: Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduct… Christian Hopps
- Re: [Lsr] 答复: Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduct… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Peter Psenak
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Peter Psenak
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Lsr] 答复: Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduct… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [Lsr] 答复: Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduct… Huzhibo
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Huaimo Chen
- [Lsr] 回复: Re: 答复: Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Re… li zhenqiang
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Peter Psenak
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … John E Drake
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Acee Lindem (acee)
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Peter Psenak
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Tony Li
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Huaimo Chen
- Re: [Lsr] Moving Forward [Re: Flooding Reduction … Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)