Re: [Lsr] LSR WG Adoption Poll for "IS-IS Topology-Transparent Zone" - draft-chen-isis-ttz-11.txt

> - The transition mechanisms

Hmmm maybe I missed some explanations by authors, but to me concept of
zones is positioned as an addition to the concept of areas or levels - not
a replacement of those.

So when you say "transition" means that something existing no longer would
be in place after successful deployment of a new thing.

Here I am actually not sure if IGP domain could be only constructed with
zones without areas ?

Of course said all of the above I am still not seeing any value in the
proposed new abstraction regardless if such abstraction would be positioned
to exist in parallel to areas/levels or by definition be nested within the
area/level.

r.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 4:48 PM <tony.li@tony.li> wrote:

>
> Hi Xueson,
>
> My intension was not to talk about math/engineering/marketing or compare
> the size of marketing department. Them are not relevant to this thread.
>
>
>
> You are the one who suggested we leave it up to the market…
>
> I want to make clear about IETF process. In my understanding the document
> does not need to be perfect at this stage, as long as it is in the right
> direction to solve some acknowledged problem( IGP scalability). Comments
> will be helpful if it could provide ideas about how to improve.
>
>
>
> That’s what we’ve been trying to tell you all along:
>
> - If there is a benefit to zones, it’s not clear to us.  You need to do a
> better job articulating that.
>
> - The transition mechanisms seem awkward and painful. Can you reduce the
> complexity?
>
> But IMO the discussion in the mailing list about this draft has gone off
> the rails of technology, including keeping challenging tradeoff between
> value and complexity, which seems reasonable at the first sight, but at
> this stage, has turned out to be a question with no right answer and may
> bring endless argument.
>
>
>
> Technology is all about maximizing benefits while minimizing costs.  This
> is why we don’t wire houses using gold and silver.
>
> Yes, this does seem to be an endless argument.  Welcome to the IETF.
>
> Regards,,
> Tony
>
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