Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiving
Istvan Zsolt BERTA <istvan.berta@microsec.hu> Wed, 10 August 2011 08:38 UTC
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Dear Martín, In Hungary, the authentic long-term archival of electronically signed documents is included in the e-signature law. Aside qualified CAs, we also have qualified archiving service providers. The Hungarian Chamber of Notaries is running an archival project since 2007. Certain classes of notarial deeds are archived electronically. The notary creates the notarial deed on paper, scans it (as PDF), signs it with her qualified electronic signature and sends it to the archives (our company is a qualified archiving service provider, we run these archives). A few million notarial deeds are archived this way currently. Notaries create their signatures in XAdES-A format, and in the archives these signatures are archived in an LTANS ERS -like format. We do not use ERS because when our system was started, ERS RFCs were not available yet, but our logic is very similar to ERS. Electronically signed documents are also used (and archived) in context of the Hungarian registry of businesses. If you want to found a company in Hungary, you need to turn to a lawyer, and your lawyer submits the necessary electronically signed documents to the business registry court. The judge at the registry court also creates an electronically signed resolution. Lawyers are required to archive these electronically signed documents, e.g. using a qualified archiving provider. This system also involves millions of documents, but only a small fraction of them is archived currently. (There are already certain resolutions that were not archived properly and their timestamps expired. They are problematic.) Unfortunately I have very little written information on this in English (our English website is rather just a placeholder): http://www.berta.hu/publications/Berta2007efpe.pdf (of year 2007) http://www.berta.hu/publications/Berta2011efpe.pdf (of year 2011) http://srv.e-szigno.hu/menu/index.php?lap=english_archiving http://srv.e-szigno.hu/menu/index.php?lap=english_firm_registry If you have any further questions, feel free to ask, and I shall do my best to answer. Regards, István 2011.08.04. 18:21 keltezéssel, Martin Augusto G. Vigil írta: > Hi, > > I am a PhD student and I have been working on a survey on long-term > authenticity and proof of existence. I have found many solutions > (e.g. ERS, Patricia Trees, etc), projects (e.g. ArchiSig, Prokopius, > HP's Content Integrity Service) and even acts (Sarbanes-Oxley Act, > Directive 2001/115/EC) but few real life examples in which long-term > archiving is required and was already used. > > May someone point some concrete examples? > > Kind regards, ---- Martín A. Gagliotti Vigil Technische Universität > Darmstadt Cryptography and Computer Algebra Hochschulstraße 10 64289 > Darmstadt, Germany Room: S2/02 B216 Tel.: +49 6151 16-5416 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ ltans mailing list > ltans@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltans
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… todd glassey
- [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiving Martin Augusto G. Vigil
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- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… Ernst Jan van Nigtevecht
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- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… Istvan Zsolt BERTA
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… todd glassey
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