Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiving
todd glassey <tglassey@earthlink.net> Wed, 10 August 2011 13:12 UTC
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On 8/10/2011 1:38 AM, Istvan Zsolt BERTA wrote: > > Dear Martín, > > In Hungary, the authentic long-term archival of electronically signed > documents is included in the e-signature law. Aside qualified CAs, we > also have qualified archiving service providers. > Is there a Design Specification available? Todd > > > The Hungarian Chamber of Notaries is running an archival project since > 2007. Certain classes of notarial deeds are archived electronically. > The notary creates the notarial deed on paper, scans it (as PDF), > signs it with her qualified electronic signature and sends it to the > archives (our company is a qualified archiving service provider, we > run these archives). A few million notarial deeds are archived this > way currently. > > Notaries create their signatures in XAdES-A format, and in the > archives these signatures are archived in an LTANS ERS -like format. > We do not use ERS because when our system was started, ERS RFCs were > not available yet, but our logic is very similar to ERS. > > > Electronically signed documents are also used (and archived) in > context of the Hungarian registry of businesses. If you want to found > a company in Hungary, you need to turn to a lawyer, and your lawyer > submits the necessary electronically signed documents to the business > registry court. The judge at the registry court also creates an > electronically signed resolution. > Lawyers are required to archive these electronically signed documents, > e.g. using a qualified archiving provider. This system also involves > millions of documents, but only a small fraction of them is archived > currently. (There are already certain resolutions that were not > archived properly and their timestamps expired. They are problematic.) > > > Unfortunately I have very little written information on this in > English (our English website is rather just a placeholder): > > http://www.berta.hu/publications/Berta2007efpe.pdf (of year 2007) > http://www.berta.hu/publications/Berta2011efpe.pdf (of year 2011) > http://srv.e-szigno.hu/menu/index.php?lap=english_archiving > http://srv.e-szigno.hu/menu/index.php?lap=english_firm_registry > > If you have any further questions, feel free to ask, and I shall do my > best to answer. > > Regards, > > István > > > > > > > 2011.08.04. 18:21 keltezéssel, Martin Augusto G. Vigil írta: >> Hi, >> >> I am a PhD student and I have been working on a survey on long-term >> authenticity and proof of existence. I have found many solutions >> (e.g. ERS, Patricia Trees, etc), projects (e.g. ArchiSig, Prokopius, >> HP's Content Integrity Service) and even acts (Sarbanes-Oxley Act, >> Directive 2001/115/EC) but few real life examples in which long-term >> archiving is required and was already used. >> >> May someone point some concrete examples? >> >> Kind regards, ---- Martín A. Gagliotti Vigil Technische Universität >> Darmstadt Cryptography and Computer Algebra Hochschulstraße 10 64289 >> Darmstadt, Germany Room: S2/02 B216 Tel.: +49 6151 16-5416 >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ ltans mailing list >> ltans@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltans > > _______________________________________________ > ltans mailing list > ltans@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltans > -- Todd S. Glassey This is from my personal email account and any materials from this account come with personal disclaimers. Further I OPT OUT of any and all commercial emailings.
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… todd glassey
- [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiving Martin Augusto G. Vigil
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… todd glassey
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… Ernst Jan van Nigtevecht
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… Aljosa Jerman Blazic
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… Liaquat Khan
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… todd glassey
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… Tobias Gondrom
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… Istvan Zsolt BERTA
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… todd glassey
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… Istvan Zsolt BERTA
- Re: [ltans] Concrete examples of long-term archiv… todd glassey