Re: [Ltru] extlang and stability of macrolanguage

I'm somewhat confused. Romans(c)h and Rhaeto-Romance are simply
alternate names for one and the same language. So I'm not sure
why there is talking about a narrowing or change.

Regards,    Martin.

At 11:47 08/05/23, Peter Constable wrote:
>> From: ltru-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ltru-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>> Randy Presuhn
>
>
>> > The meaning of rm has changed in january 2007
>
>
>> The descriptions taken by themselves make this look like a narrowing
>> of the category.  Was this the intent?
>
>The change in the LSTR matched changes made by the ISO 639 JAC. As part of 
>evaluating ISO/FDIS 639-3 and considering how rm/roh should relate to 
>entries in Ethnologue, while the MARC language code list did indicate that 
>roh was used as a collective for Ladin and Romansh, it was clear that there 
>were many other uses of rm that were specifically Romansh, and the JAC 
>representatives from LOC and other libraries indicated they considered it 
>appropriate in ISO 639 to clarify the denotation as Romansh.
>
>Keep in mind: prior to publication of ISO 639-3, the denotation of IDs in 
>ISO 639 was documented only in terms of certain names, which in general are 
>not alone an adequate means of documentation. Part of the change with ISO 
>639-3 was to begin to document denotations in terms of a larger body of 
>information of a more encyclopedic nature, something that was unavoidable 
>in determining how the existing entries should relate to the large 
>collection of new entries that would be added to the code. This was simply 
>one of many decisions regarding more specific determination of denotation 
>for existing entries that were explicitly or tacitly made.
>
>Btw, this change was made before ISO 639-3 was approved; IMO, it is not a 
>case of a macrolanguage being added.
>
>
>
>Peter
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