Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags?
LB <lbleriot@gmail.com> Tue, 08 January 2008 19:03 UTC
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From: LB <lbleriot@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags?
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To avoid resuming the 1870 war, could it be agreed that: 1. linguistics is not an exact science 2. several langtags can refer to the same language name, content, classification, filtering, locale file, ... whatever they are used for? 3. the authoritative reference is the locutor/allocutor couple? What is discussed here belongs to local documentation organization (langtags concatenation), not to IETF protocols. The RFC should simply explain how all the possible forms of tagging can be handled at local application layer. How new real life tagging can be discovered and supported. IMHO going any further leads to being trapped into nationalistic issues, as expressed by Frank. They may have local but have no global legitimacy. 2008/1/8, Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de>: > > Nicholas Shanks wrote: > > > I'll wager that those using de-FR, als and so on are not even > > looking at the registry, and probably don't know it exists. > > "de-FR" and "als" are rather different, the latter is just wrong. > > The former was a sound workaround for Alsatian before the new > "gsw" was introduced (2006), and until everybody learns that it > exists, and that it's supposed to encompass Alsatian. > > "de-FR" is still a good workaround for any German language used > in France if the tagger has no clue which of these languages it > is - Alsatian isn't the only game in twown ;-) > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franconian_languages> contains > some examples, in this or another article I found that the > German language spoken in Strasbourg is neither "Franconian" > nor "Alemanic" but a variant of "High German". Stéphane picked > an interesting can of worms with his proposal. > > Frank > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ltru mailing list > Ltru@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru > -- LB
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- [Ltru] Description on tags, not just subtags? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Addison Phillips
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Randy Presuhn
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Nicholas Shanks
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… LB
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Randy Presuhn
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… John Cowan
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Martin Duerst
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… LB
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Frank Ellermann
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Mark Davis
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Nicolas Krebs
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… LB
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Nicolas Krebs
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subt… Debbie Garside
- [Ltru] Re: Description on tags, not just subtags? Frank Ellermann