Re: [Ltru] Tagging of silent films
"Kent Karlsson" <kentk@cs.chalmers.se> Wed, 28 September 2005 16:35 UTC
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Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:35:42 +0200
Subject: Re: [Ltru] Tagging of silent films
From: Kent Karlsson <kentk@cs.chalmers.se>
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> Well, this is a metadata standard, so part of the documentation of the > standard > would be "This field contains an RFC 3066 tag; the private-use tag 'qsi' Ok, so far. > means 'silent film'." qsi is supposedly a *language* tag. "Silent", "film", "silent film" does not really fit in there. If qsi in that metadata standard is to have any language relation with respect to this, interpreting it as "no lingustic content" (for an audio stream; or in some cases for the images stream) would be far better. Or are we to have a language subtag (variant) for films that does not show anyone speaking (or any imaged text) but there is a narrative? (Like for nature/wildlife films and the like.) I think not. Using language tags for 'silent film', 'film with narrative' and such would not be a suitable use of *language* tags. Using 'und' or 'qsi' (within that context) for "no [determinable] linguistic content" (for text, audio and imagages separate) would be fine. And I don't think 'und' is all that wrong for that. Maybe the sound of the talk is so faint that you didn't hear it ;-). If the metadata standard allows for a langauge tag to be optional, leaving the language tag out for saying "no [determinable] linguistic content" would be fine too. If you want to distinguish "no-one is heard speaking" from "jibberish-A" (and from "jibberish-B" etc.), which may or may not be in some language unknown to the taggers (or just artistic, like the "Swedish chef" in the Muppet Show), would that be worthwhile? I'm not so sure. /kent k _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
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