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[Madinas] About draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-07 and a potential way forward

CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> Tue, 20 February 2024 00:03 UTC

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Subject: [Madinas] About draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-07 and a potential way forward
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Hi,

I've checked one more time draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-07, and I'd like to
make a proposal to move forward with the document.

I think the document is valuable, and therefore should be published (as the
WG is chartered to do). My personal opinion is that we should remove the
requirements section of the draft, making it less formal (I believe the WG
will probably not recharter to do any protocol work, and therefore there is
no need for "formal" requirements).

Additionally, since it also seems that the WG will not work on the BCP
document that we were originally chartered to do, I think that we can bring
back the text on existing solutions (802.1X, OpenRoaming, etc.) to an
annex, and perhaps refer to the other WBA/OpenRoaming draft(s). I found
this text quite informational.

I'd appreciate feedback from the WG, to help the draft authors
understand what changes are needed in the next revision.

Thanks!

Carlos

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