Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a taxonomy section (fwd) "Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga)": Re: Comment #2 from MCR: creating a taxonomy section
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 04 November 2022 16:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a taxonomy section (fwd) "Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga)": Re: Comment #2 from MCR: creating a taxonomy section
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I found your email very difficult to read. Please be aware that all HTML is stripped out by the archive, so if you use HTML quoting, it's just not gonna work. I think that you wrote: JC> Looking at the WG deliverables, I agree that the existing documents JC> respond to the following two: An Informational use cases and identity requirements JC> document (draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03) An Informational JC> MAC Address Randomization current state-of-affairs JC> document (draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-04) JC> But we are still missing the third one: JC> 2. Document Best Practices handling RCM JC> A Best Current Practices document I think that I am volunteering for this. JC> There are some solutions mentioned in draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03, but these are not JC> sufficient for a BCP. I guess for now these solutions should be moved to an annex and JC> perhaps the doc should focus more on the “use cases and identity requirements” I think we need to restructure all the documents. JC> I’m also in favour of doing some road-show to interact with other groups (not sure if JC> Cunningham's Law is the best strategy though). for some readers: Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." On Wed, 2 Nov 2022 at 16:35, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> wrote: > > (chair hat off) > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > From: Madinas <madinas-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> > Date: Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 6:51 AM > To: CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>, madinas@ietf.org <madinas@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a taxonomy section > > > CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> wrote: > > I agree that having a taxonomy is useful. I just think we need some > > additional discussion on the mailing list to ensure that we cover what > > is expected and that we use the right terms. > > I agree with you. > > > I'm going to accept your edits regarding this in the github and include > > the initial text in the next revision of the draft. We can take it from > > there. Hopefully, we will get also input from other people in the WG, > > as this is a WG doc now. > > I have been thinking about the BCP document as well. > I am very much unconvinced that the two documents that we have have the right > split, and I think that this is why there is some difficulty connecting the > taxonomy into the right place. > > It might be that list should go into the BCP document. > I have also been considering starting that document. I think that we need a > bit of a road-show: where we go into other WGs and talk to them during their > session. This may call for an application of Cunningham's Law. > > Looking at the WG deliverables, I agree that the existing documents respond to the following two: > An Informational use cases and identity requirements document (draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03) > An Informational MAC Address Randomization current state-of-affairs document (draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-04) > > But we are still missing the third one: > 2. Document Best Practices handling RCM > A Best Current Practices document > > There are some solutions mentioned in draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03, but these are not sufficient for a BCP. I guess for now these solutions should be moved to an annex and perhaps the doc should focus more on the “use cases and identity requirements” > > I’m also in favour of doing some road-show to interact with other groups (not sure if Cunningham's Law is the best strategy though). > > Juan-Carlos > > > > Hmm. We should also present at RIPE somewhere, which is next week, and where > I'm on my way to. Double Hmm. > > -- > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- > >
- Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a tax… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a tax… Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a tax… Lee, Yiu
- Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a tax… Jerome Henry (jerhenry)
- Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a tax… Lee, Yiu
- Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a tax… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Madinas] [EXTERNAL] Re: Comment #2 from MCR:… Lee, Yiu
- Re: [Madinas] [EXTERNAL] Re: Comment #2 from MCR:… Michael Richardson