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Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a taxonomy section

"Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga)" <juzuniga@cisco.com> Tue, 01 November 2022 16:31 UTC

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From: "Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga)" <juzuniga@cisco.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>, "madinas@ietf.org" <madinas@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a taxonomy section
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(chair hat off)

Hi Michael,


From: Madinas <madinas-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
Date: Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 6:51 AM
To: CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es>, madinas@ietf.org <madinas@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Madinas] Comment #2 from MCR: creating a taxonomy section

CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> wrote:
    > I agree that having a taxonomy is useful. I just think we need some
    > additional discussion on the mailing list to ensure that we cover what
    > is expected and that we use the right terms.

I agree with you.

    > I'm going to accept your edits regarding this in the github and include
    > the initial text in the next revision of the draft. We can take it from
    > there.  Hopefully, we will get also input from other people in the WG,
    > as this is a WG doc now.

I have been thinking about the BCP document as well.
I am very much unconvinced that the two documents that we have have the right
split, and I think that this is why there is some difficulty connecting the
taxonomy into the right place.

It might be that list should go into the BCP document.
I have also been considering starting that document.  I think that we need a
bit of a road-show: where we go into other WGs and talk to them during their
session.   This may call for an application of Cunningham's Law.
Looking at the WG deliverables, I agree that the existing documents respond to the following two:
An Informational use cases and identity requirements document (draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases/>)
An Informational MAC Address Randomization current state-of-affairs document (draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-04<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization/>)

But we are still missing the third one:
2. Document Best Practices handling RCM
A Best Current Practices document
There are some solutions mentioned in draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases/>, but these are not sufficient for a BCP. I guess for now these solutions should be moved to an annex and perhaps the doc should focus more on the “use cases and identity requirements”
I’m also in favour of doing some road-show to interact with other groups (not sure if Cunningham's Law is the best strategy though).
Juan-Carlos


Hmm. We should also present at RIPE somewhere, which is next week, and where
I'm on my way to. Double Hmm.

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