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Re: [Madinas] identities for legitimate devices

Juan Carlos Zuniga <juancarlos.zuniga@sigfox.com> Thu, 05 November 2020 16:02 UTC

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From: Juan Carlos Zuniga <juancarlos.zuniga@sigfox.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "madinas@ietf.org" <madinas@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Madinas] identities for legitimate devices
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Madinas <madinas-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Stephen Farrell
> Sent: November 5, 2020 10:36 AM
> To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>; madinas@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Madinas] identities for legitimate devices
> 
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> I agree with Juan-Carlos' answer to this btw, but also...
> 
> On 04/11/2020 22:43, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > I have regularly banned my child's devices by MAC address at certain
> > times of the evening ("school nights") to enforce
> > no-screen-after-supper (But, he can watch "TV" with us).
> > I have stopped this for three reasons:
> >    0) does bedtime have any meaning in a pandemic?
> >    1) I can not ban youtube while enabling google docs for school
> >    2) his phone has a data-SIM card, and the damn LTE provider won't give
> me
> >       a time-of-day-use-restriction
> >    3) nobody else knows how to override it on a single-use case basis
> >       [see #1]
> 
> 4) Don't bother - just talk to the kid. (Possibly convincing them to behave by
> fibbing that you can spy on all they do if you really want:-)
> 
> FWIW, when mine were young, I did #4. I suspect it worked as well as
> anything.
> 
> S.

[JCZ] FWIW2: It's true Stephen. That used to work fine, up until certain pandemic required homework to be delivered over cloud-based apps and (younger to my taste) kids started spending too much time in front of a screen :(  
I still strongly believe that education is better than policing, both at home and country levels. Nonetheless, at the IETF we need to focus on L7 & below solutions ;)

Jc

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