Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver
"James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com> Thu, 02 December 2010 19:55 UTC
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 13:57:08 -0600
To: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu@cisco.com>, "Mike Hammer (hmmr)" <hmmr@cisco.com>, Peter Musgrave <peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com>, maitai@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver
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At 10:10 AM 12/2/2010, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) wrote: >The way I have been thinking about it, A would advertise what cameras it >has and ways it can present them to B. B would then be able to select >the camera and/or representations it wants. >As a simplified example, A could advertise the following: > >I have 3 cameras, left, center, and right. >I can provide these as: >- 3 separate streams Charles In this scenario - wouldn't it be more appropriate to switch between the streams (i.e., only one is sent at a time) than actually transmitting each stream (where only one is consumed), thus absolutely reducing network load? James >- 1 active speaker switched stream >- 1 stream composed of the three > >Of course there would be audio and many other things to consider, but >hopefully that gets the general idea across. This allows B to have as >much of as little control over what it receives as it likes, and it >should be able to change mid call. > >Cheers, >Charles > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: maitai-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:maitai-bounces@ietf.org] On >Behalf Of Mike Hammer (hmmr) > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:34 AM > > To: Peter Musgrave; maitai@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver > > > > Peter, > > > > Unless of course it is a company meeting and the speaker is your CEO! > > > > Something has to decide what screen tunes into what camera, no matter > > what. > > > > Question is what can be programmed automatic, and what is allowed to >be > > manual. > > And if manual, what information is available to make such a decision. > > > > Mike > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: maitai-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:maitai-bounces@ietf.org] On >Behalf > > Of Peter Musgrave > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:53 AM > > To: maitai@ietf.org > > Subject: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver > > > > Hi, > > > > I have been pondering possible ways of representing a room >configuration > > - but I think I need to back up and ask a question about basic interop > > architecture. > > > > In the selection of content on a stream, who is the active decision > > making entity, sender - or receiver - or both? > > > > Consider a three display, 3 camera (3d3c) room A sending to a 1d1c >room > > B. > > > > Does A offer all three streams to B and let B pick? (This leads in the > > direction of dynamic changes based on B, which is powerful but leads >us > > into continuous control...) > > Does A determine B has only one display and select which video B >should > > get and send only one stream? > > > > IHMO an approach which lets B have control over what it gets is more > > powerful. e.g. If I have heard the pitch from the speaker 100 times, I > > want to watch the customer and see if they are engaged, rather than > > watch the active speaker blather on.... > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > maitai mailing list > > maitai@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/maitai > > _______________________________________________ > > maitai mailing list > > maitai@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/maitai >_______________________________________________ >maitai mailing list >maitai@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/maitai
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Paul Kyzivat
- [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Duckworth, Mark
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Duckworth, Mark
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Duckworth, Mark
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver James M. Polk
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Duckworth, Mark
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Elwell, John
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Allyn Romanow (allyn)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Paul Kyzivat
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- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver bruno.chatras
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
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