Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver
"Mike Hammer (hmmr)" <hmmr@cisco.com> Thu, 02 December 2010 15:32 UTC
Return-Path: <hmmr@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: maitai@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: maitai@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609E128C17D for <maitai@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:32:26 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -10.657
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.657 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X3LL7b2X3Jh2 for <maitai@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:32:24 -0800 (PST)
Received: from rtp-iport-1.cisco.com (rtp-iport-1.cisco.com [64.102.122.148]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D9828C17A for <maitai@ietf.org>; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:32:24 -0800 (PST)
Authentication-Results: rtp-iport-1.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAMRK90ytJXHB/2dsb2JhbACjIXGnZJsShUcEhF6JHw
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,288,1288569600"; d="scan'208";a="188189683"
Received: from rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com ([173.37.113.193]) by rtp-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Dec 2010 15:33:39 +0000
Received: from xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com [72.163.63.8]) by rcdn-core2-6.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oB2FXdTe013776; Thu, 2 Dec 2010 15:33:39 GMT
Received: from xmb-rcd-111.cisco.com ([72.163.62.153]) by xbh-rcd-301.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 2 Dec 2010 09:33:39 -0600
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 09:33:37 -0600
Message-ID: <C4064AF1C9EC1F40868C033DB94958C703474808@XMB-RCD-111.cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <928969B1-F60B-47B8-A526-676E86BA7061@magorcorp.com>
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
Thread-Topic: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver
Thread-Index: AcuSH+FPRbLe7wE3SMi2WTNf4O8qQAAFgccg
References: <928969B1-F60B-47B8-A526-676E86BA7061@magorcorp.com>
From: "Mike Hammer (hmmr)" <hmmr@cisco.com>
To: Peter Musgrave <peter.musgrave@magorcorp.com>, maitai@ietf.org
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Dec 2010 15:33:39.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B0E2AA0:01CB9236]
Subject: Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver
X-BeenThere: maitai@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Multi-stream Attributes for Improving Telepresence Application Interoperability <maitai.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/maitai>, <mailto:maitai-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/maitai>
List-Post: <mailto:maitai@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:maitai-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/maitai>, <mailto:maitai-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2010 15:32:26 -0000
Peter, Unless of course it is a company meeting and the speaker is your CEO! Something has to decide what screen tunes into what camera, no matter what. Question is what can be programmed automatic, and what is allowed to be manual. And if manual, what information is available to make such a decision. Mike -----Original Message----- From: maitai-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:maitai-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Musgrave Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 7:53 AM To: maitai@ietf.org Subject: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Hi, I have been pondering possible ways of representing a room configuration - but I think I need to back up and ask a question about basic interop architecture. In the selection of content on a stream, who is the active decision making entity, sender - or receiver - or both? Consider a three display, 3 camera (3d3c) room A sending to a 1d1c room B. Does A offer all three streams to B and let B pick? (This leads in the direction of dynamic changes based on B, which is powerful but leads us into continuous control...) Does A determine B has only one display and select which video B should get and send only one stream? IHMO an approach which lets B have control over what it gets is more powerful. e.g. If I have heard the pitch from the speaker 100 times, I want to watch the customer and see if they are engaged, rather than watch the active speaker blather on.... Peter _______________________________________________ maitai mailing list maitai@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/maitai
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Paul Kyzivat
- [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Duckworth, Mark
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Duckworth, Mark
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Duckworth, Mark
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver James M. Polk
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Duckworth, Mark
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Elwell, John
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Allyn Romanow (allyn)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver bruno.chatras
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Peter Musgrave
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver bruno.chatras
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Mary Barnes
- Re: [maitai] Roles of Sender and Receiver Paul Kyzivat