[manet] draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology and draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming-00.txt
Thomas Heide Clausen <thomas@thomasclausen.org> Tue, 11 November 2014 03:32 UTC
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Subject: [manet] draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology and draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming-00.txt
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Since, of course, all y’all are compulsively reading the ID-announce mailing list ;) you’ll have seen draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming-00.txt document appear just today. This is in response to the review from our AD on draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg16875.html <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/manet/current/msg16875.html>), in which he indicates that we probably should re-think the way we name TLV types. As our AD requested, the authors did re-think, discuss a bit also with our AD and chairs, and came to a conclusion ... and that conclusion is in this I-D. I think that it is safe to say that our AD is going to sit on, and therefore block progress for, draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology — and that, until we see draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming move ahead (or, until we propose an alternative way forward, of course). Given that, and in case there is time on the meeting agenda, then — if the WG is interested and the WG chairs believe that it will be helpful in order to see progress — I’d be happy to say a few words on this topic, and try to answer any questions there might be. Either way, I believe that we’ll very soon be soliciting the WG chairs to issue a call-for-WG-adoption (with a suitable lead period to read the document), followed by a WGLC, such that this document may make progress and “unblock” draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology also. Best, Thomas > Begin forwarded message: > > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Thomas Heide Clausen <t.clausen@computer.org>, "Christopher Dearlove" <chris.dearlove@baesystems.com>, "Thomas H. Clausen" <T.Clausen@computer.org>, Christopher Dearlove <chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming-00.txt > Date: 11 Nov 2014 01:51:14 CET > > > A new version of I-D, draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Thomas Heide Clausen and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming > Revision: 00 > Title: TLV Naming in the MANET Generalized Packet/Message Format > Document date: 2014-11-10 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 16 > URL: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming-00.txt > Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming/ > Htmlized: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-dearlove-manet-tlv-naming-00 > > > Abstract: > TLVs (type-length-value structures) as defined by RFC5444 have both a > type (one octet) and a type extension (one octet), together forming a > full type (of two octets). RFC5444 sets up IANA registries for TLV > types, specifying that an allocation of a TLV type entails creation > of an IANA registry for the corresponding type extensions. > > In some cases, reserving all 256 type extensions for use for a common > purpose for a given TLV is meaningful, and thus it makes sense to > record a common name for such a TLV type (and all of its type > extensions) in the corresponding IANA registries. An example of such > is a LINK_METRIC TLV Type, with its type extensions reserved for use > to be indicating the "kind" of metric expressed by the value of the > TLV. > > In some other cases, there may not be 256 full types that share a > common purpose and, as such, it is not meaningful to record a common > name for all the type extensions for a TLV type in the corresponding > IANA registries. Rather, it is appropriate to record an individual > name per full type. > > This document reorganizes the naming of already allocated TLV types > and type extensions in those registries to use names appropriately. > It has no consequences in terms of any protocol implementation. > > This document also updates the Expert Review guidelines from RFC5444, > so as to establish a policy for consistent naming of future TLV type > and type extension allocations. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat >
- [manet] draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology and… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [manet] draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [manet] draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [manet] draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology… Stan Ratliff