Re: [Manycouches] Follow up on consultation on IETF 112 and COVID-related restrictions

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 05/08/2021 à 14:16, Bron Gondwana a écrit :
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021, at 09:49, IETF Executive Director wrote:
>> 2.  Assessment criteria
>>
>> The assessment criteria have been amended based on feedback to align 
>> with draft-ietf-shmoo-cancel-meeting [2] with the inclusion of two 
>> new tests:
>>
>> - Sufficient critical support staff and contractors can be at the 
>> venue and available remotely as needed
>> - The meeting will not result in a significant unbudgeted financial 
>> loss for the IETF LLC
>
> Another point - not that everywhere is quite so hair-trigger as 
> Australia - is the propensity of the local jurisdiction to change the 
> rules at short notice.  We had about 4 hours here in Victoria for the 
> current 1 week lockdown.


:-) in France during last 4 weeks the representatives debate over the 
use of a 'pass sanitaire': who should allow (bar restaurants cinema 
supemarket), who should control, who should pay those who control, 
nurses to be mandated to be vaccinated or not, and other questions.

In Greece this morning a colleague is complaining about being mandated 
to not leave her house, but not because of the covid, but because of the 
fire nearby; electricity cut, no Internet, but GSM (mobile phone voice) 
fine.  She wonders why all these things on them the Greeks this year 
(covid, big snow in winter, and now this fire).

>
> No commentary on whether it's the right choice, proportionate, 
> justified, all that -- But if we were trying to hold the IETF in a 
> city which did what Melbourne has just done, it would instantly turn 
> the rest of the meeting into a remote meeting held from our various 
> hotel rooms, with all the incredible impact on the networking 
> capabilities of wherever the participants were staying that would entail!


I think it is a reasonable worry to mention about what might happen with 
organising and planning events.

Here many people planned for vacation and are away from home now, only 
to realize the conditions change while they are away.  They left without 
a 'pass sanitaire' but might need one to come back.

Soome people are vacationing in Guadeloupe (islands in Central America) 
hoping be away from problems at home in France, but there are other new 
problems there arriving all of a sudden (completely unplanned), like 
being requested to stay in a 10km radius.

One does not want these kinds of situations.

One must also take care of the psychology problems.

Alex


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