Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-marf-as-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
"Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk@cloudmark.com> Thu, 26 April 2012 17:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-marf-as-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Pete Resnick [mailto:presnick@qualcomm.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:30 AM > To: Murray S. Kucherawy > Cc: marf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-marf-as-14: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) > > Murray, please give me OLD/NEW for these two changes and I'll put it in > the RFC Editor notes. I'd rather not have a -17 in this particular > case. Ask and ye shall receive. OLD (Section 1): Further introduction to this topic may be found in [RFC6449], which is effectively an Applicability Statement written outside of the IETF and thus never achieved IETF consensus. Much of the content for that document was input to this one. NEW: Further introduction to this topic may be found in [RFC6449], which has more information about the general topic of abuse reporting. Many of the specific ARF guidelines in this document were taken from the principles presented in [RFC6449]. OLD (Section 5.1): 2. Message authentication is generally a good idea, but it is especially important to encourage credibility of and thus response to unsolicited reports. Therefore, as with any other message, Feedback Providers sending unsolicited reports SHOULD send reports that they believe will pass Sender Policy Framework ([RFC4408]) and/or DomainKeys Identified Mail ([RFC6376]) checks. NEW: 2. Message authentication is generally a good idea, but it is especially important to encourage credibility of and thus response to unsolicited reports. Therefore, as with any other message, Feedback Providers sending unsolicited reports SHOULD send reports that they expect will pass Sender Policy Framework ([RFC4408]) and/or DomainKeys Identified Mail ([RFC6376]) checks. -MSK
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Benoit Claise
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Benoit Claise
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Benoit Claise
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… SM
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Pete Resnick
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Pete Resnick
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-… Benoit Claise