Re: [marf] Misuse of ARF by spam-friendly ISPs

[Alessandro Vesely <[e-mail]>]

On 03/Aug/11 02:42, J.D. Falk wrote:
> On Jul 30, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if this could be mentioned in the BCP effort we're doing (JD?).
> 
> I suppose it could be added to the growing list of use cases that
> draft-jdfalk-marf-as specifically does not address, along with
> individual user submissions, virus/malware reports, churning monkey
> butter, et cetera.

What is the meaning of a list of non-addressed use cases?  Possibly
suggest that they are not worth being addressed in general?  Hmm...
that's quite strange, especially considering that everyone likes the
monkey butter.

> Sounds to me like what's actually needed is a BCP on accepting
> abuse reports from the general public -- maybe a task for the
> ASRG?

I agree such a BCP is needed, and I take this chance to propose it
again.  The ASRG has already done research on this topic, and John
summarized it in

  http://wiki.asrg.sp.am/wiki/Adding_a_junk_button_to_MUAs

That still looks current.  It allows MUAs to report in a variety of
ways.  For SMTP, it is obviously better to wrap the offending mail in
an ARF message, but not mandatory.

For homogeneity, I'd put this extra BCP in MARF rather than ASRG.
There are related issues, like manual vs. auto submission, and privacy
considerations.