Re: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework draft, request for review

Hiroaki Sato <satou.hiroaki@lab.ntt.co.jp> Tue, 29 July 2008 01:44 UTC

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Hi Maglione,

Thank you for your response.
We'll reflect your comment.

Best regards,
Hiroaki

> Hi Hiroaki,
>     the simplified definitions for join and leave you inserted in section 2.1 look fine with me.
> Just a minor comment  in future version of the draft please refer to latest version of ancp framework draft, currently
> draft-ietf-ancp-framework-06
> 
> Regards,
> Roberta
> ________________________________________
> From: Hiroaki Sato [satou.hiroaki@lab.ntt.co.jp]
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Hi Maglione,

Thank you for your response.
We'll reflect your comment.

Best regards,
Hiroaki

> Hi Hiroaki,
>     the simplified definitions for join and leave you inserted in section 2.1 look fine with me.
> Just a minor comment  in future version of the draft please refer to latest version of ancp framework draft, currently
> draft-ietf-ancp-framework-06
> 
> Regards,
> Roberta
> ________________________________________
> From: Hiroaki Sato [satou.hiroaki@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> Senent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:37 AM
> To: Maglione Roberta; asaeda@sfc.wide.ad.jp
> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; ancp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework draft, request for review
> 
> Hi Maglione, Hitoshi and all,
> 
> I submitted draft-ietf-mboned-multiaaa-framework-07.
> Please review and send comments.
> 
> Actually, we, authers, determined to focus on high level framework.
> Specific protocol and message names are deleted or replaced by general
> words.
> As a result, Join and Leave definisions are simplified as follows.
> 
> Join: Signaling mechanism used by receivers to indicate
>     they want to access a multicast group and receive the
>     corresponding traffic.
> 
> Leave: Signaling mechanism used by receivers to indicate
>     they want to leave a multicast group and not receive the
>     corresponding traffic anymore.
> 
> Best regards,
> Hiroaki
> 
>> Hi
>>
>> Thank you for your comment.
>> We'll reflect it to the next 07 version.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Hiroaki
>>
>>> Hi Hiroaki and All,
>>>     I read the new version of mboned multiaaa-framework draft it
>>> looks good to me, thanks for integrated accounting concepts from ancp
>>> draft.   I just have quick a comment related to section "4.3
>>> Accounting", here
>>> you talk about Join and Leave messages I think it would be worth to add
>>> in section 2.1 the definitions of  both Join and Leave. I would suggest,
>>> for example, something similar to the definitions that we currently use
>>> in ancp framework draft in section 1.2:
>>>
>>>   o  Join: signaling from the user equipment that it wishes to start
>>>       receiving a new multicast flow.  In ASM, it is referred to as a
>>>       "Join".  In SSM [RFC4607], it is referred to as a "subscribe".  In
>>>       IGMPv2, "joins" are indicated through an "IGMPv2 membership
>>>       report".  In IGMPv3 [RFC3376], "join" are indicated through
>>>       "membership report" using different Filter-Mode-Change (ASM) and
>>>       Source-List-Change Records.
>>>
>>>    o  Leave: signaling from the user equipment that it wishes to stop
>>>       receiving a multicast flow.  With IGMPv2 this is conveyed inside
>>>       the "Leave Group" message while in IGMPv3, "leave" is indicated
>>>       through "IGMPv3 membership report" message using different Filter-
>>>       Mode-Change (ASM) and Source-List-Change Records.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>> Best regards,
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> Roberta Maglione  - CCIE #18425
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mboned-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mboned-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Hiroaki Sato
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:30 PM
>>> To: ancp@ietf.org
>>> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; thayashi@digitalforest.co.jp;
>>> christian.jacquenet@francetelecom.com
>>> Subject: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework
>>> draft, request for review
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We, the authors of draft-ietf-mboned-multiaaa-framework-06.txt, revised
>>> our draft and some items refer to the ancp framework draft.
>>> So, we'd like to request for you to review our draft and please comment
>>> on it.
>>>
>>> Major changes include:
>>> -two levels of accounting information (start/stop only and plus volume)
>>> -acconting for fast channel change (information merging)
>>> -QoS downgrade (admission control)
>>>
>>> thank you,
>>> Hiroaki
>>>
>>> ---
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> To: Maglione Roberta; asaeda@sfc.wide.ad.jp
> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; ancp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework draft, request for review
> 
> Hi Maglione, Hitoshi and all,
> 
> I submitted draft-ietf-mboned-multiaaa-framework-07.
> Please review and send comments.
> 
> Actually, we, authers, determined to focus on high level framework.
> Specific protocol and message names are deleted or replaced by general
> words.
> As a result, Join and Leave definisions are simplified as follows.
> 
> Join: Signaling mechanism used by receivers to indicate
>     they want to access a multicast group and receive the
>     corresponding traffic.
> 
> Leave: Signaling mechanism used by receivers to indicate
>     they want to leave a multicast group and not receive the
>     corresponding traffic anymore.
> 
> Best regards,
> Hiroaki
> 
>> Hi
>>
>> Thank you for your comment.
>> We'll reflect it to the next 07 version.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Hiroaki
>>
>>> Hi Hiroaki and All,
>>>     I read the new version of mboned multiaaa-framework draft it
>>> looks good to me, thanks for integrated accounting concepts from ancp
>>> draft.   I just have quick a comment related to section "4.3
>>> Accounting", here
>>> you talk about Join and Leave messages I think it would be worth to add
>>> in section 2.1 the definitions of  both Join and Leave. I would suggest,
>>> for example, something similar to the definitions that we currently use
>>> in ancp framework draft in section 1.2:
>>>
>>>   o  Join: signaling from the user equipment that it wishes to start
>>>       receiving a new multicast flow.  In ASM, it is referred to as a
>>>       "Join".  In SSM [RFC4607], it is referred to as a "subscribe".  In
>>>       IGMPv2, "joins" are indicated through an "IGMPv2 membership
>>>       report".  In IGMPv3 [RFC3376], "join" are indicated through
>>>       "membership report" using different Filter-Mode-Change (ASM) and
>>>       Source-List-Change Records.
>>>
>>>    o  Leave: signaling from the user equipment that it wishes to stop
>>>       receiving a multicast flow.  With IGMPv2 this is conveyed inside
>>>       the "Leave Group" message while in IGMPv3, "leave" is indicated
>>>       through "IGMPv3 membership report" message using different Filter-
>>>       Mode-Change (ASM) and Source-List-Change Records.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>> Best regards,
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> Roberta Maglione  - CCIE #18425
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mboned-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mboned-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Hiroaki Sato
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:30 PM
>>> To: ancp@ietf.org
>>> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; thayashi@digitalforest.co.jp;
>>> christian.jacquenet@francetelecom.com
>>> Subject: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework
>>> draft, request for review
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We, the authors of draft-ietf-mboned-multiaaa-framework-06.txt, revised
>>> our draft and some items refer to the ancp framework draft.
>>> So, we'd like to request for you to review our draft and please comment
>>> on it.
>>>
>>> Major changes include:
>>> -two levels of accounting information (start/stop only and plus volume)
>>> -acconting for fast channel change (information merging)
>>> -QoS downgrade (admission control)
>>>
>>> thank you,
>>> Hiroaki
>>>
>>> ---
>>> ************************************
>>> NTT Network Service Systems Lab.
>>> Hiroaki Sato
>>> TEL:0422-59-4683 (+81-422-59-4683)
>>> FAX:0422-59-5636 (+81-422-59-5636)
>>> ************************************
>>>
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> 
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