Re: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework draft, request for review

["Maglione Roberta" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Hiroaki,
    the simplified definitions for join and leave you inserted in section 2.1 look fine with me.
Just a minor comment  in future version of the draft please refer to latest version of ancp framework draft, currently
draft-ietf-ancp-framework-06

Regards,
Roberta
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Hi Maglione, Hitoshi and all,

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Hi Hiroaki,
    the simplified definitions for join and leave you inserted in section 2.1 look fine with me.
Just a minor comment  in future version of the draft please refer to latest version of ancp framework draft, currently
draft-ietf-ancp-framework-06

Regards,
Roberta
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From: Hiroaki Sato [[e-mail]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:37 AM
To: Maglione Roberta; [e-mail]
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework draft, request for review

Hi Maglione, Hitoshi and all,

I submitted draft-ietf-mboned-multiaaa-framewework-07.
Please review and send comments.

Actually, we, authers, determined to focus on high level framework.
Specific protocol and message names are deleted or replaced by general
words.
As a result, Join and Leave definisions are simplified as follows.

Join: Signaling mechanism used by receivers to indicate
    they want to access a multicast group and receive the
    corresponding traffic.

Leave: Signaling mechanism used by receivers to indicate
    they want to leave a multicast group and not receive the
    corresponding traffic anymore.

Best regards,
Hiroaki

> Hi
>
> Thank you for your comment.
> We'll reflect it to the next 07 version.
>
> Best regards,
> Hiroaki
>
>> Hi Hiroaki and All,
>>     I read the new version of mboned multiaaa-framework draft it
>> looks good to me, thanks for integrated accounting concepts from ancp
>> draft.   I just have quick a comment related to section "4.3
>> Accounting", here
>> you talk about Join and Leave messages I think it would be worth to add
>> in section 2.1 the definitions of  both Join and Leave. I would suggest,
>> for example, something similar to the definitions that we currently use
>> in ancp framework draft in section 1.2:
>>
>>   o  Join: signaling from the user equipment that it wishes to start
>>       receiving a new multicast flow.  In ASM, it is referred to as a
>>       "Join".  In SSM [RFC4607], it is referred to as a "subscribe".  In
>>       IGMPv2, "joins" are indicated through an "IGMPv2 membership
>>       report".  In IGMPv3 [RFC3376], "join" are indicated through
>>       "membership report" using different Filter-Mode-Change (ASM) and
>>       Source-List-Change Records.
>>
>>    o  Leave: signaling from the user equipment that it wishes to stop
>>       receiving a multicast flow.  With IGMPv2 this is conveyed inside
>>       the "Leave Group" message while in IGMPv3, "leave" is indicated
>>       through "IGMPv3 membership report" message using different Filter-
>>       Mode-Change (ASM) and Source-List-Change Records.
>>
>> What do you think?
>> Best regards,
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Roberta Maglione  - CCIE #18425
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
>> Of Hiroaki Sato
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:30 PM
>> To: [e-mail]
>> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail];
>> [e-mail]
>> Subject: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework
>> draft, request for review
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We, the authors of draft-ietf-mboned-multiaaa-framework-06.txt, revised
>> our draft and some items refer to the ancp framework draft.
>> So, we'd like to request for you to review our draft and please comment
>> on it.
>>
>> Major changes include:
>> -two levels of accounting information (start/stop only and plus volume)
>> -acconting for fast channel change (information merging)
>> -QoS downgrade (admission control)
>>
>> thank you,
>> Hiroaki
>>
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>> Hiroaki Sato
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>> ---------------------------------------------ork-07.
Please review and send comments.

Actually, we, authers, determined to focus on high level framework.
Specific protocol and message names are deleted or replaced by general
words.
As a result, Join and Leave definisions are simplified as follows.

Join: Signaling mechanism used by receivers to indicate
    they want to access a multicast group and receive the
    corresponding traffic.

Leave: Signaling mechanism used by receivers to indicate
    they want to leave a multicast group and not receive the
    corresponding traffic anymore.

Best regards,
Hiroaki

> Hi
>
> Thank you for your comment.
> We'll reflect it to the next 07 version.
>
> Best regards,
> Hiroaki
>
>> Hi Hiroaki and All,
>>     I read the new version of mboned multiaaa-framework draft it
>> looks good to me, thanks for integrated accounting concepts from ancp
>> draft.   I just have quick a comment related to section "4.3
>> Accounting", here
>> you talk about Join and Leave messages I think it would be worth to add
>> in section 2.1 the definitions of  both Join and Leave. I would suggest,
>> for example, something similar to the definitions that we currently use
>> in ancp framework draft in section 1.2:
>>
>>   o  Join: signaling from the user equipment that it wishes to start
>>       receiving a new multicast flow.  In ASM, it is referred to as a
>>       "Join".  In SSM [RFC4607], it is referred to as a "subscribe".  In
>>       IGMPv2, "joins" are indicated through an "IGMPv2 membership
>>       report".  In IGMPv3 [RFC3376], "join" are indicated through
>>       "membership report" using different Filter-Mode-Change (ASM) and
>>       Source-List-Change Records.
>>
>>    o  Leave: signaling from the user equipment that it wishes to stop
>>       receiving a multicast flow.  With IGMPv2 this is conveyed inside
>>       the "Leave Group" message while in IGMPv3, "leave" is indicated
>>       through "IGMPv3 membership report" message using different Filter-
>>       Mode-Change (ASM) and Source-List-Change Records.
>>
>> What do you think?
>> Best regards,
>> Roberta
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Roberta Maglione  - CCIE #18425
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
>> Of Hiroaki Sato
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:30 PM
>> To: [e-mail]
>> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail];
>> [e-mail]
>> Subject: [MBONED] mboned multiaa-framework reflecting the ancp framework
>> draft, request for review
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We, the authors of draft-ietf-mboned-multiaaa-framework-06.txt, revised
>> our draft and some items refer to the ancp framework draft.
>> So, we'd like to request for you to review our draft and please comment
>> on it.
>>
>> Major changes include:
>> -two levels of accounting information (start/stop only and plus volume)
>> -acconting for fast channel change (information merging)
>> -QoS downgrade (admission control)
>>
>> thank you,
>> Hiroaki
>>
>> ---
>> ************************************
>> NTT Network Service Systems Lab.
>> Hiroaki Sato
>> TEL:[phone] ([phone])
>> FAX:[phone] ([phone])
>> ************************************
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MBONED mailing list
>> [e-mail]
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>>         Thank you
>>
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>>
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