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Re: [MBONED] next step for mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm ??

Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> Thu, 15 August 2019 07:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MBONED] next step for mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm ??
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Hi Mark,

> On 14 Aug 2019, at 23:03, Mark Handley <mark@handley.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Generally this document looks good.  One minor nit, in section 5:
> 
>   Nevertheless, this document does not believe that any ASM solution,
>   even with such future work, can ever provide the same intrinsic
>   security and network and address management simplicity as SSM (see
>   Section 3.2).  Instead, this document believes that future work for
>   general purpose interdomain IP multicast is better spent on the SSM
>   items listed in Section 4.
> 
> It's not really possible for a document to *believe* anything.  It would be better if this expressed the level of consensus - either "the authors believe" or stronger, "the mboned WG consensus is".  

Thanks. This was also picked up in Jake's review, so we'll definitely change it for the revved version, which should be out today or tomorrow.

Best wishes,
Tim

> Mark
> 
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019, at 8:59 PM, Leonard Giuliano wrote:
>> 
>> Jim- if there is rough consensus from the WG to advance the doc, it will 
>> be submitted to IESG to request publication.  You email below helps with 
>> this process, so thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2019, James A. (Jim) Stevens wrote:
>> 
>> | Although I have participated in several IETF working groups over the 
>> past decades and provided feedback and comments to drafts, I really 
>> don't understand the process of moving from draft to released RFC.
>> | 
>> | So I have to ask, what is the next step for the Internet draft 
>> "Deprecating ASM for Interdomain Multicast" - - 
>> draft-acg-mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm-03?
>> | 
>> | It looks good to me and provides useful guidance on applicability of 
>> multicast within and between domains.  So I recommend that we move 
>> forward onit.
>> | 
>> | Thanks,
>> | Jim  Stevens
>> | 
>> | 
>> | 
>> | 
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