Re: [MBONED] WGLC: draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06

Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com> Tue, 31 January 2017 21:48 UTC

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From: Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:48:16 -0800
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] WGLC: draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06
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Hi

This looks good to me,

Stig


On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 12:25 PM, TARAPORE, PERCY S <pt5947@att.com> wrote:
> Thanks Jake,
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> Stig do you have any further comments? Is the proposed revision good for
> you? I would like to request the Last Call process by the end of this week.
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> Thanks
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> Percy
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> From: Holland, Jake [mailto:jholland@akamai.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 6:42 PM
> To: TARAPORE, PERCY S <pt5947@att.com>; Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>; Greg
> Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com>
> Cc: mboned@ietf.org; SAYKO, ROBERT J <rs1983@att.com>
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> Subject: Re: [MBONED] WGLC: draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06
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> This one looks fine to me. Thanks for all your work on this, Percy.
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> On 1/30/17, 1:00 PM, "TARAPORE, PERCY S" <pt5947@att.com> wrote:
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> Jake & Stig,
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> Attached please find a revised marked up Draft BCP that addresses all your
> comments as follows:
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> Jake we accepted all your suggested revisions and have incorporated them
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> Stig, we attempted to address all your comments. Please review the changes
> associated with the revision proposed on page 18 (bottom of the page). These
> changes allow us to keep the text for the bullet on page 19 which was the
> motivation for Stig’s Comment 2. Please let us know if this is acceptable.
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> Please respond back to me by mid-week so I can formally upload the revised
> Draft and request start of the next – and hopefully last – Last Call.
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> Thank you for all your help.
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> Percy & Bob
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: MBONED [mailto:mboned-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Holland, Jake
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 9:39 PM
> To: Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>; Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com>
> Cc: mboned@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [MBONED] WGLC: draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06
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> On 1/5/17, 11:40 AM, "Stig Venaas" <stig@venaas.com> wrote:
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>     I see in 4.2.3 it says:
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>       o Using the information from the metadata, and possibly information
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>          provisioned directly in the EU client, a DNS query is initiated in
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>          order to connect the EU client/AMT Gateway to an AMT Relay.
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>     Do we already have a solution that allows for choosing a different
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>     relay for different sources? I would be interested in more details. I
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>     guess it may be out of scope here. But is there already a way of
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>     describing this with metadata for any applications or EU clients? As a
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>     BCP it should ideally refer to things that already are in use.
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> The Octoshape media client does something that fits this description. The
> (S,G) and the relay address can be provisioned in the client based on
> metadata it receives at runtime. The DNS is optional, but in this context
> it’s an example, and I think this describes a real-life scenario that’s
> deployed today.
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> To be on the safe side, having mentioned the Octoshape client, I should
> probably make an IPR disclosure:
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> There are some patents related to the Octoshape technology that I believe
> are now owned by Akamai and/or its subsidiaries. Though I do not believe
> this nuance of configurable AMT relay discovery is covered in any of the
> claims, the Octoshape system itself does use some patent-encumbered
> technology, and if you are inspired to examine its behavior in light of this
> discussion or for some other reason, please be aware that you should
> consider the patents appropriately.
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> Cheers,
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> Jake
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