Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda
Jacni Qin <jacniq@gmail.com> Thu, 01 March 2012 13:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda
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Hi Stig, On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com> wrote: > On 2/24/2012 12:26 AM, Jacni Qin wrote: > >> Re-, >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Tina TSOU >> <Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com <mailto:Tina.Tsou.Zouting@**huawei.com<Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com>>> >> wrote: >> >> We have at least for topics to discuss. >> 1. The degree to which the AF is stateless. >> 2. Which strategy looks more promising in the Address Acquisition >> draft? >> 3. Routing crosses address boundaries, loop avoidance. >> 4. What does the AF do when it lives on a machine that speaks IGMP >> or MLD out one side and PIM out the other? Does it translate between >> IGMP and MLD, or does it maintain all of the state that it needs to >> interface between IGMP or MLD and PIM? >> >> >> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by the 1. >> > > Hi Jacni. Regarding number 1. In my opinion, the question is whether > stateful or stateless, similar to what has been discussed for unicast. > > Thank you for clarifing that. > I believe you can easily do stateless translation from IPv4 to IPv6 > by embedding IPv4 address into IPv6. But in the other direction, it > is likely that you need state. > Basically you can map a set of IPv6 addresses to IPv4, but that > mapping either needs to be a statically configured mapping, or > somehow learned dynamically. > > Yes, IMO, the other direction can also be done without any state but algorithmically. The prefixes used for that can be assigned, say stateless DHCP. Cheers, Jacni > Stig > > Not sure yet about the 2., still reading the draft. >> About the 3 &4, please refer to Christian's message earler, or you can >> read the http://tools.ietf.org/html/**draft-jaclee-behave-v4v6-** >> mcast-ps-03<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jaclee-behave-v4v6-mcast-ps-03> >> , >> not all cases are covered, but you can get the clue to the answer. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Jacni >> >> >> That's actually a discussion that requires relatively high >> bandwidth. It is better suited to a conference call than an email >> exchange. >> >> Tina >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: mboned-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:mboned-bounces@ietf.**org<mboned-bounces@ietf.org> >> > >> [mailto:mboned-bounces@ietf.**org <mboned-bounces@ietf.org> <mailto: >> mboned-bounces@ietf.**org <mboned-bounces@ietf.org>>] On >> Behalf >> > Of Ronald Bonica >> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 6:28 PM >> > To: mboned@ietf.org <mailto:mboned@ietf.org> >> > Subject: Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda >> > >> > Jacni, >> > >> > Good question! I have seen pretty good progress on both the multrans >> > overview and addressing drafts. The interim may not be needed. >> > >> > However, I will let the proponents of this meeting speak for >> themselves. >> > If they still want to hold this meeting, they can tell us what >> topics >> > remain open for discussion. If however, they no longer want to >> hold this >> > meeting, they always have the option to cancel it. >> > >> > Ron >> > >> > >> > > Message: 1 >> > > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:51:26 +0800 >> > > From: Jacni Qin <jacniq@gmail.com <mailto:jacniq@gmail.com>> >> > > To: Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca >> <mailto:marc.blanchet@**viagenie.ca <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca>>> >> > > Cc: MBONED WG <mboned@ietf.org <mailto:mboned@ietf.org>> >> >> > > Subject: Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda >> > > Message-ID: >> > > <CAHmj1Weabs9=P- >> > > 4aBqZs3dSXWNiqR5_**BACc0HguwG4AArEGoPg@mail.**gmail.com<4aBqZs3dSXWNiqR5_BACc0HguwG4AArEGoPg@mail.gmail.com> >> <mailto:4aBqZs3dSXWNiqR5_**BACc0HguwG4AArEGoPg@mail.**gmail.com<4aBqZs3dSXWNiqR5_BACc0HguwG4AArEGoPg@mail.gmail.com> >> >> >> >> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> > > >> > > Re-, >> > > >> > > Sorry, may I ask why we need this interim meeting? >> > > >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Jacni >> > > >> > > >> > **************** >> > ______________________________**_________________ >> > MBONED mailing list >> > MBONED@ietf.org <mailto:MBONED@ietf.org> >> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/mboned<https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> MBONED mailing list >> MBONED@ietf.org <mailto:MBONED@ietf.org> >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/mboned<https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> MBONED mailing list >> MBONED@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/mboned<https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned> >> > >
- [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Leonard Giuliano
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Marc Blanchet
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda christian.jacquenet
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Jacni Qin
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Jacni Qin
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Ronald Bonica
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Tina TSOU
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Jacni Qin
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Jacni Qin
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Stig Venaas
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Mike McBride
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Lee, Yiu
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Stig Venaas
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Lee, Yiu
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Tina TSOU
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Greg Shepherd
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Marc Blanchet
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Tina TSOU
- [MBONED] Proposed interim agenda Tina TSOU
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Stig Venaas
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Stig Venaas
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Tom Taylor
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Greg Shepherd
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Stig Venaas
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim agenda Leonard Giuliano
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim agenda Tina TSOU
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim agenda Stig Venaas
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim date and agenda Jacni Qin
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim agenda Jacni Qin
- Re: [MBONED] Proposed interim agenda Lee, Yiu