Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-14
Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> Wed, 09 October 2013 16:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-14
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Martin, Have you had a chance to review the updated draft? Thanks, Greg On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Martin Stiemerling < martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu> wrote: > > > On 04/25/2013 07:14 PM, Greg Bumgardner wrote: > >> Martin, >> >> IPv6 is mentioned in the second paragraph though the description is >> pretty vague - basically implying that, just as an IPv6 router is not >> supposed to (re)fragment IPv6 datagrams, an AMT relay should not >> fragment data messages that encapsulate non-fragmented datagrams. >> >> I'll expand on this in the the paragraph in question, and will review >> the normative description to see if it is adequate. >> > > ok, thanks and resubmit the updated version to see where we are. > > Thanks, > > Martin > > >> Thanks, >> >> -g.b. >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Martin Stiemerling >> <martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu <mailto:martin.stiemerling@**neclab.eu<martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu>>> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 04/08/2013 03:43 PM, Greg Shepherd (shep) wrote: >> >> Martin, >> >> Any circuit-breaker mechanism should be described in its own >> draft, >> and not within this one. Gorry and I agreed in Orlando that a >> paragraph warning of non-CG traffic would be sufficient. I hope >> this >> view has not changed. >> >> >> The current statement is ok. >> >> What about this question: >> >> - Section 4.2.2.4 looks rather incomplete as it basically only >> describes the IPv4 case. Is this intentionally? >> >> Otherwise, please post an updated version of the draft. >> >> Martin >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, Greg >> >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 4:04 AM, Martin Stiemerling >> <martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu >> <mailto:martin.stiemerling@**neclab.eu<martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu>>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Greg, >> >> - Section 4.1.4.2. is a good start and documents the >> challenges. >> However, there has been also the proposal from Gorry/me >> (sent in a >> private email) about adding a circuit breaker to the protocol. >> E.g., adding a protocol mechanism that allows relays to >> exchange >> some basic information such as x packet sent in the last >> second, so >> that the other end can detect if it has received less than x >> or x >> packets. >> >> - Section 4.2.2.4 looks rather incomplete as it basically only >> describes the IPv4 case. Is this intentionally? >> >> Martin >> >> On 04/01/2013 09:13 PM, Greg Bumgardner wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I've attached the draft I had intended to submit prior >> to the >> last IETF meeting (missed cutoff by 20 mins - forgot >> about UTC). >> I have been asked to distribute this text for review by >> the ISEG >> discussion participants prior to submission as >> additional changes >> may be required. This version of the document corrects >> various >> typos, etc., and includes new text in which I attempted to >> address concerns raised by several reviewers. I have >> been told >> that there have been some off-line discussions (in >> Orlando) >> regarding some open issues in which some consensus has >> been >> reached regarding how these should be addressed in the >> document. >> I would appreciate feedback as to whether the new text is >> acceptable and suggestions as to what might be added or >> changed >> as a result of any off-line discussions. >> >> I've copied the mboned group so that they may see the >> latest >> changes - group members should reply to me and >> mboned@ietf.org <mailto:mboned@ietf.org> >> <mailto:mboned@ietf.org <mailto:mboned@ietf.org>> if >> >> they have questions or comments. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -g.b. >> >> -- Greg Bumgardner Eugene, OR >> >> >> -- martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu >> <mailto:martin.stiemerling@**neclab.eu<martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu> >> > >> >> >> NEC Laboratories Europe NEC Europe Limited Registered Office: >> Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London, HA4 >> 6QE, GB >> Registered in England 2832014 >> >> >> >> -- >> martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu <mailto:martin.stiemerling@**neclab.eu<martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu> >> > >> >> >> NEC Laboratories Europe >> NEC Europe Limited >> Registered Office: >> Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London, HA4 6QE, GB >> Registered in England 2832014 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Greg Bumgardner >> Eugene, OR >> > > -- > martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu > > NEC Laboratories Europe > NEC Europe Limited > Registered Office: > Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London, HA4 6QE, GB > Registered in England 2832014 >
- [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multic… Greg Bumgardner
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Greg Shepherd (shep)
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Greg Bumgardner
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Greg Shepherd
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Greg Bumgardner