Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-14
Greg Bumgardner <gbumgard@gmail.com> Wed, 09 October 2013 18:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-14
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Yes, anybody who hasn't done so, please do. I need to submit at least one more version to correct some minor errors. Drop dead date for submissions is Monday, 10/21. Thanks! -g.b. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> wrote: > Martin, > > Have you had a chance to review the updated draft? > > Thanks, > Greg > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Martin Stiemerling > <martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 04/25/2013 07:14 PM, Greg Bumgardner wrote: >>> >>> Martin, >>> >>> IPv6 is mentioned in the second paragraph though the description is >>> pretty vague - basically implying that, just as an IPv6 router is not >>> supposed to (re)fragment IPv6 datagrams, an AMT relay should not >>> fragment data messages that encapsulate non-fragmented datagrams. >>> >>> I'll expand on this in the the paragraph in question, and will review >>> the normative description to see if it is adequate. >> >> >> ok, thanks and resubmit the updated version to see where we are. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Martin >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -g.b. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Martin Stiemerling >>> <martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu <mailto:martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 04/08/2013 03:43 PM, Greg Shepherd (shep) wrote: >>> >>> Martin, >>> >>> Any circuit-breaker mechanism should be described in its own >>> draft, >>> and not within this one. Gorry and I agreed in Orlando that a >>> paragraph warning of non-CG traffic would be sufficient. I hope >>> this >>> view has not changed. >>> >>> >>> The current statement is ok. >>> >>> What about this question: >>> >>> - Section 4.2.2.4 looks rather incomplete as it basically only >>> describes the IPv4 case. Is this intentionally? >>> >>> Otherwise, please post an updated version of the draft. >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, Greg >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 4:04 AM, Martin Stiemerling >>> <martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu >>> <mailto:martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Greg, >>> >>> - Section 4.1.4.2. is a good start and documents the >>> challenges. >>> However, there has been also the proposal from Gorry/me >>> (sent in a >>> private email) about adding a circuit breaker to the >>> protocol. >>> E.g., adding a protocol mechanism that allows relays to >>> exchange >>> some basic information such as x packet sent in the last >>> second, so >>> that the other end can detect if it has received less than x >>> or x >>> packets. >>> >>> - Section 4.2.2.4 looks rather incomplete as it basically >>> only >>> describes the IPv4 case. Is this intentionally? >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> On 04/01/2013 09:13 PM, Greg Bumgardner wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I've attached the draft I had intended to submit prior >>> to the >>> last IETF meeting (missed cutoff by 20 mins - forgot >>> about UTC). >>> I have been asked to distribute this text for review by >>> the ISEG >>> discussion participants prior to submission as >>> additional changes >>> may be required. This version of the document corrects >>> various >>> typos, etc., and includes new text in which I attempted >>> to >>> address concerns raised by several reviewers. I have >>> been told >>> that there have been some off-line discussions (in >>> Orlando) >>> regarding some open issues in which some consensus has >>> been >>> reached regarding how these should be addressed in the >>> document. >>> I would appreciate feedback as to whether the new text is >>> acceptable and suggestions as to what might be added or >>> changed >>> as a result of any off-line discussions. >>> >>> I've copied the mboned group so that they may see the >>> latest >>> changes - group members should reply to me and >>> mboned@ietf.org <mailto:mboned@ietf.org> >>> <mailto:mboned@ietf.org <mailto:mboned@ietf.org>> if >>> >>> they have questions or comments. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> -g.b. >>> >>> -- Greg Bumgardner Eugene, OR >>> >>> >>> -- martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu >>> <mailto:martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu> >>> >>> >>> NEC Laboratories Europe NEC Europe Limited Registered Office: >>> Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London, HA4 >>> 6QE, GB >>> Registered in England 2832014 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu <mailto:martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu> >>> >>> >>> NEC Laboratories Europe >>> NEC Europe Limited >>> Registered Office: >>> Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London, HA4 6QE, GB >>> Registered in England 2832014 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Greg Bumgardner >>> Eugene, OR >> >> >> -- >> martin.stiemerling@neclab.eu >> >> NEC Laboratories Europe >> NEC Europe Limited >> Registered Office: >> Athene, Odyssey Business Park, West End Road, London, HA4 6QE, GB >> Registered in England 2832014 > > -- Greg Bumgardner Eugene, OR
- [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multic… Greg Bumgardner
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Greg Shepherd (shep)
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Greg Bumgardner
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Greg Shepherd
- Re: [MBONED] Discuss on draft-ietf-mboned-auto-mu… Greg Bumgardner