Re: [MBONED] [admin-discuss] Country-level emergency alert systems while at the in-person component of IETF meetings

[William Atwood <[e-mail]>]

To answer Alex's question (about Canada), I have had cellphone alerts 
and television alerts for child-abduction cases (AMBER alert), and I 
believe that I have seen them for weather warnings.  Given the high 
level of integration of the US and Canadian telephone systems, I suspect 
that we have the same system (EAS) that the US has.

   Bill Atwood

On 2022-11-03 10:28 p.m., Toerless Eckert wrote:
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> [cc'ing mboned for a fun observation reason]
> 
> As a multicast geek i do of course appreciate the fast propagation
> of messages on the US EAS system because of cell broadcast (aka: mobile
> network layer radio tower multicast as opposed to serialized unicast messages).
> 
> We had recently a 5.1 earthquake in the san francisco bay area and something
> like 3 seconds into the first shake i had exactly that warning info
> (5.1 shake at xxx location) on my phones display so i could decide not
> to run out of the house - and the followup shakes proved that to be the
> right decision. Nice!
> 
> Admittedly, i am not too sure that cell broadcast to everybody is
> really the best way to help missing person cases. Those experiences
> make me wonder what type of alarms would qualify for the UK system.
> Missing Prime Minister alerts ? Missing EU alert ? ;-) Sorry, could not resist.
> 
> So: thanks for the pointers, Alex, but wouldn't this be better on ietf115attendees ?
> 
> Toerless
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 05:40:16PM +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>>      Country-level emergency alert systems while at the in-person component
>> of IETF meetings
>>
>> UK-Alert: for next IETF meeting in London, maybe, or maybe not, the UK-Alert
>> will be in place: https://www.gov.uk/alerts>>>
>> J-Alert: used a couple of times in Japan in recent weeks, for various
>> military and other.
>>
>> EAS Emergency Alert System in USA:
>> https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/emergency-alert-system-eas>>>
>> FR-Alert: now up and running in France, since a few weeks, following a
>> couple of months of testing.
>>
>> alertswiss: in Switzerland, a smartphone app,
>> https://www.alert.swiss/fr/home.html>>>
>> Ro-alert: used in Romania since some time now.  Probably IETF will never
>> meet in Bucharest, but I list it as a similarity in naming.  Maybe other
>> 'countrycode-alert' systems exist that I did not find myself.
>>
>> Some of these alert systems require registration to some site, or the
>> installment of an app on a smartphone; others distribute alerts to all 3G
>> and 4G smartphones in a geographical area of concern without a need to
>> register, and maybe 2G and 5G later.  Some claim to work under extreme tech
>> conditions such as the subscription plan having expired, or under no normal
>> coverage, or other exceptional situations.
>>
>> I wonder what are similar alert systems in Czechia and Canada? where next
>> IETF meetings will presumably hold.
>>
>> Alex
>>
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