Re: [media-types] Change in direction for multiple suffixes?

[Mark Nottingham <[e-mail]>]

Manu,

I do you the courtesy of taking your arguments seriously, even when I don't agree with them. Please return that courtesy; the language you use below is unprofessional.

Thank you,


> On 23 Mar 2024, at 00:41, Manu Sporny <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Summarizing some events, thoughts, and next steps from the IETF 119
> session on multiple suffixes:
> 
> * We failed, once again, to achieve consensus on the draft. We've been
> at it, on and off, for 5+ years.
> 
> * We seem to have consensus that suffixes were not well thought
> through when they were introduced.
> 
> * Advice provided by this group on suffixes in the past, to the
> JSON-LD WG specifically, was probably wrong.
> 
> * It is not clear what discussions or text would result in consensus
> to the current draft direction.
> 
> IOW, I no longer believe that the group is going to be able to come to
> consensus on supporting the concept of multiple suffixes no matter how
> much text we write on the subject, and I dare say, the concept of
> structured suffixes as something that is actively promoted going
> forward is probably not a good idea either.
> 
> I took a couple of action items from the meeting today:
> 
> 1. Float the idea of rescinding the requests for all media types that
> use structured suffixes from the JSON-LD, DID, and VC WGs at W3C.
> Gather feedback and report it to this group. We can tally objections
> via the number of arrows in my back upon my return.
> 
> 2. Provide the current set of media types from each group that use
> structured suffixes and the alternates if we abandon the current
> direction of the multiple suffixes draft.
> 
> 3. Track down Mark Nottingham to analyze his repressed feelings about
> structured suffixes. Approaches might include Freudian psychoanalysis,
> delving into his childhood, or peyote. His choice, of course. :P
> 
> 4. See what Martin Thomson and W3C TAG would like to see happen in this space.
> 
> 5. Raise issues in the issue tracker to gather feedback.
> 
> If there are other items that can help us transcend this multi-year
> log jam, please suggest concrete directions.
> 
> This has been one of the least fun games of "go fetch me a rock" that
> I have ever played. :)
> 
> -- manu
> 
> -- 
> Manu Sporny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> https://www.digitalbazaar.com/

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