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Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com> Tue, 05 March 2019 02:43 UTC

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To: "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <ncamwing@cisco.com>, Alexey Melnikov <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm>, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [mile] Alissa Cooper's No Objection on draft-ietf-mile-xmpp-grid-09: (with COMMENT)
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If the WG didn't have consensus that the document needs to be on the
standards track (I defer to the chairs and AD), then informational might
be more appropriate. As a co-author, I'm fine with either.

On 3/4/19 2:47 PM, Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alissa and Alexey.  We discussed this in the group and couldn't really reach consensus given that we
> Do have some normative language to guide towards interoperability and address security considerations.
> 
> That said Alissa is right to clarify that "typical" is meant to mean the minimal workflow to adhere to, so we will update that in the draft as well.
> 
> Warm regards, Nancy
> On 1/24/19, 06:42, "Alexey Melnikov" <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Alissa,
>     
>     Thank you for your comments.  Quick comments on a part of your review.
>     
>     On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote:
>     > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     > COMMENT:
>     > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     > 
>     > Please respond to the Gen-ART review.
>     
>     Yes, I will chase that.
>     
>     > I'm not quite seeing what part of this is a standards-track specification. The
>     > workflow in Section 4 is described as "typical" but not normative and the
>     > exchanges listed in sections 5 and 6 are listed as examples. For a
>     > standards-track specification I would have expected something more like
>     > "Implementations of XMPP-Grid adhere to the following workflow ..." and for
>     > service discovery and pub-sub to be described as *the* way to do those things
>     > in XMPP-Grid, not just illustrated by examples. Otherwise this seems like it
>     > could be an informational document.
>     
>     I need to discuss this with the WG, but I think I agree that the document needs an editorial pass to make sure that it is either purely Informative or that it clearly states extra requirements as suitable for a Proposed Standard.
>     
>     Thank you,
>     Alexey
>     
>

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