Re: [Mip6] WG LC (Deadline Dec 18th, 04) for I-Ds: draft-ietf-mip6-auth-protocol-01.txt anddraft-ietf-mip6-mn-ident-option-00.txt

Kent Leung <kleung@cisco.com> Thu, 16 December 2004 23:16 UTC

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:04:21 -0800
To: Wing Cheong Lau <lau@qualcomm.com>
From: Kent Leung <kleung@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Mip6] WG LC (Deadline Dec 18th, 04) for I-Ds: draft-ietf-mip6-auth-protocol-01.txt anddraft-ietf-mip6-mn-ident-option-00.txt
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Hi Wing.

This is a generic issue, lack of RADIUS AVPs to identify authentication
method to the AAA server.  This was also raised in MIP4 WG for
3012bis.  That draft is proceeding forth with admission to this fact.
There needs to be an I-D in RADEXT WG to deal with
this generic AAA issue.  We plan to submit an I-D there.

Kent

At 02:33 PM 12/16/2004 -0800, Wing Cheong Lau wrote:
>At 01:34 PM 12/16/2004, Kent Leung wrote:
>>Hi James.
>>
>>Acknowledged.  Unless there's disagreement, we'll replace MD5 context
>>with SHA-1 in the document.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Kent
>Dear Kent,
>
>Once you replace MD5 with SHA-1, will you be proposing corresponding 
>extensions/ changes to
>RADIUS and CHAP so that one can use RADIUS/CHAP to authenticate a BU using 
>MN-AAA authentication
>option in your draft ? (there is no mentioning of SHA-1 in RFC2865 or RFC 
>1996 so far).
>
>If not, how will the MN-AAA option interoperate with the AAA ?
>
>Regards,
>
>Wing
>
>>At 05:41 PM 12/14/2004 -0800, James Kempf wrote:
>>> >  - another point: MD5 should be replaced by SHA-1 everywhere in the
>>>document.
>>>
>>>Yes, this can't be emphasized strongly enough.
>>>
>>>Results by Xiaoyun Wang from China presented at Crypto in Santa Barbara this
>>>summer showed that with 1 hr of precomputation on IBM P690, new collisons on
>>>1024 bit messages could be generated every 15 sec. to 5 min. MD5 should be
>>>considered insecure and not used, and it should be EOL-ed in existing IETF
>>>protocols and replaced with SHA-1.
>>>
>>>SHA-1 appears to be secure after 40 rounds but has been broken up to 40 (it
>>>typically takes 80), which appears to be the limit possible with the current
>>>cryptanalysis technique. Whether its possible to break SHA-1 completely,
>>>remains to be seen.
>>>
>>>                     jak
>>>
>>>
>>>
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