RE: [Mipshop] Gauging interest in official WG adoption ofinternetdrafts

["Junghoon Jee" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Vidya and Yoshihiro,

> If more people actually think there is an issue here, I'd be 
> happy to run it by Sam and Russ. However, I strongly believe 
> that this step is not required at this time, since we have 
> precedence with approved standards track documents along very 
> similar lines.  

I have the same issue with Yoshihiro from my attendance to the HOAKEY
BoF.
I also feel the need for getting Sam's opinion here.

Thanks,
-Junghoon


> Thanks,
> Vidya 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:22 PM
> > To: Dondeti, Lakshminath
> > Cc: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [Mipshop] Gauging interest in official WG adoption of

> > internetdrafts
> > 
> > As far as I understand, Sam's concern is not only on application 
> > keying using AMSK but also AAA-assisted application keying 
> in general.
> > So I am not sure if your suggested remedy really addresses the 
> > concern.  I'd suggest asking Sam's opinon before moving forward.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Yoshihiro Ohba
> > 
> > On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 05:36:46PM -0800, Lakshminath Dondeti
wrote:
> > > Disclaimer: I work with one of the authors (Vidya) of the 
> > > handover-keys-aaa I-D, although didn't contribute to the
> > draft in anyway.
> > > 
> > > I just read the parts of the I-D that seem to be
> > contentious and note
> > > that the reference to AMSKs is merely an example and the 
> HMK can be 
> > > established through other means, say by preprovisioning.
> > > 
> > > That said, I think it is best to remove Appendix A (I am not
sure 
> > > about A.1, that probably should stay and resolved later) as it 
> > > reproduces a key hierarchy and key derivation process 
> that is still 
> > > under active discussion.
> > > 
> > > regards,
> > > Lakshminath
> > > 
> > > At 04:25 PM 3/25/2006, Yoshihiro Ohba wrote:
> > > >I have a reservation on
> > draft-vidya-mipshop-handover-keys-aaa-01.txt.
> > > >
> > > >The draft describes a AAA-assisted key management protocol to 
> > > >generate handover keys for protecting signaling between MN
> > and AR.  I
> > > >am viewing the proposal as an application keying for FMIPv6 and

> > > >possibly other protocols.  However, in the IETF65 hoakey 
> BOF, Sam 
> > > >Hartman, a Security AD, raised concern on application
> > keying.  As a
> > > >consequence, the hoakey BOF chairs made a decision to exclude 
> > > >application keying from the BOF charter, expecting
> > application keying
> > > >to be discussed in a separate BOF.
> > > >
> > > >Thus, it might be wiser to hold this draft until there 
> is a clear 
> > > >consensus on how to deal with application keying in the IETF.
> > > >
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Yoshihiro Ohba
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 11:49:36PM -0800, gabriel 
> montenegro wrote:
> > > >> Folks,
> > > >>
> > > >> In today's meeting we talked about 4 potential items up for
> > > >adoption as official working
> > > >> groups. Talking with folks after the meeting, we've decided
to
> > > >add two more to the list
> > > >> of items we'll ask the WG whether we should adopt. This is
the
> > > >follow-up email to today's
> > > >> discussion, to make sure we ask this on the mailing list.
> > > >>
> > > >> So the question to the WG is: Should we adopt the following
> > > >documents as official WG
> > > >> items (based on the individual drafts as noted below)?:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. draft-ietf-mipshop-fmipv6-rev-XX.txt
> > > >> based on draft-koodli-mipshop-rfc4068bis-00.txt
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-keys-aaa-XX.txt
> > > >> based on  draft-vidya-mipshop-handover-keys-aaa-01.txt
> > > >>
> > > >> 3. draft-ietf-mipshop-handover-key-send-XX.txt
> > > >> based on draft-kempf-mobopts-handover-key-01.txt (currently
> > > >> expired)
> > > >>
> > > >> 4. draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e-XX.txt
> > > >> based on draft-jang-mipshop-fh80216e-02.txt
> > > >>
> > > >> 5. draft-ietf-mipshop-3gfh-XX.txt based on 
> > > >> draft-yokota-mipshop-3gfh-02.txt
> > > >>
> > > >> 6. draft-ietf-mipshop-cga-cba-XX.txt based on 
> > > >> draft-arkko-mipshop-cga-cba-03.txt
> > > >>
> > > >> Please send comments one way or another through April 4,
2006.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> chairs
> > > >>
> > > >>
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