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Re: [MLS] Recommendation for encrypted group operations

Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Tue, 30 January 2024 21:15 UTC

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From: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2024 13:15:32 -0800
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To: Brendan McMillion <brendanmcmillion@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [MLS] Recommendation for encrypted group operations
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:11 PM Brendan McMillion
<brendanmcmillion@gmail.com> wrote:
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> #1 is only an issue if you are supporting very very large groups, or maybe if you have very inefficient credentials. #2 does not immediately resonate with me, as it sounds more like a concern that you would have in corporate environments?

Groups can be extremely large: there are telegram channels of tens of
thousands of people. The credentials in cross-domain environments can
rapidly swell. At the same time spam can be an issue, and having
server visibility into group joining I think can be a very useful clue
here.
>
> I personally have not followed the mimi wg very closely and I can not say why they made this decision.

Even as someone subscribed I'm not sure I'm aware of this particular
conversation. Anyone got handly links?

Sincerely,
Watson


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