Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-06.txt
Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 23 February 2016 20:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-06.txt
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I went through the full draft (-08) again, not just the diffs. I found a few things: * Intro: Reading the intro I would jump to the conclusion that the primary reason for this draft is to define the way for explicitly signaling a new association. While this is important, I don't think it is *the* reason. Rather, IIUC, the reason is to centralize DTLS negotiation procedures for many protocols that require it. * Section 3.1: The third bullet is: o The establishment of a new DTLS association is explicitly signaled; ISTM that this isn't quite right. I think it should say: o The desire/intent to establish of a new DTLS association is explicitly signaled; * Section 4: A 'dtls-connection' attribute value of 'new' indicates that a new DTLS association MUST be established. A 'dtls-connection' attribute value of 'existing' indicates that a new DTLS association MUST NOT be established. The 2nd sentence above isn't entirely true. It is contradicted by section 5.3: ... or if the answerer receives an offer that contains an 'dtls-connection' attribute with an 'existing' value and the answerer determines (based on the criteria for establishing a new DTLS association) that a new DTLS association is to be established, the answerer MUST insert a 'new' value in the associated answer. IMO 5.3 must prevail here, because the answerer may not agree that there is an existing connection to reuse. So the working in section 4 should change. How about: ... A 'dtls-connection' attribute value of 'existing' indicates a preference to reuse an existing association. * Section 5.1: The certificate received during the DTLS handshake MUST match the fingerprint received in the SDP "fingerprint" attribute. If the fingerprint does not match the hashed certificate, then the endpoint MUST tear down the media session immediately. ... This talks about *the* fingerprint. But, IIUC, multiple fingerprints may be supplied. What is the required processing in that case? * Section 5.3: If the offer specified 'existing' but the answerer changes to 'new', should the setup attribute settings remain as they had been? (Which then determines which end sends the ClientHello message.) What should be done if the offer doesn't contain a setup attribute? * Section 9.2 (NEW TEXT) The far endpoint (answerer) may now establish a DTLS association with the offerer. Alternately, it can indicate in its answer that the offerer is to initiate the TLS association. ... Why does this first say DTLS and then use TLS? IIUC they should both be DTLS. That is all I found. I think it is almost done. Thanks, Paul > On 2/5/16 11:29 AM, Flemming Andreasen wrote: >> Greetings MMUSIC >> >> This is to announce a 2 week WGLC on the draft: >> >> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-06.txt >> >> as Proposed Standard. Please review and provide any comments you may >> have on the document by Friday, February 19, 2016. Comments should be >> sent to the document authors and the MMUSIC WG list. If you review the >> document but do not have any comments, please send a note to that >> effect as well. >> >> Thanks >> >> -- Flemming (MMUSIC co-chair) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mmusic mailing list >> mmusic@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >> . >> > >
- [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-06.txt Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Martin Thomson
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] WGLC on draft-ietf-mmusic-dtls-sdp-0… Jonathan Lennox