Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-27.txt] - Text on ICE PAC
Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com> Tue, 21 May 2019 10:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-27.txt] - Text on ICE PAC
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On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 3:30 PM Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > > First, if we are going to remove support of FQDN (see other thread), there > is no need to mention it. > > > > Second, I don’t think you need to repeat so much of what is defined in ICE > PAC (which may even still change). I suggest something like: > > > > “[draft-holmberg-ice-pac] provides guidance on finding working candidate > pairs, and is useful to prevent premature declaration of ICE failure > > e.g., if the peer has not provided any candidates, or if all provided > candidates have failed or have been discarded.”! > [Suhas] Looks fine to me. I can add to next version > > > Regards, > > > > Christer > > > > > > > > > > *From: *Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com> > *Date: *Monday, 20 May 2019 at 22.27 > *To: *Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> > *Cc: *Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com>, "mmusic@ietf.org" < > mmusic@ietf.org> > *Subject: *Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Action: > draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-27.txt] - Text on ICE PAC > > > > Thanks Christer. I agree with the intent here. > > > > How about this version > > > > “In certain scenarios when either no candidates were provided in the > > offer or all the provided candidates were discarded (say, due to > > unsupported address type or FQDN name resolution failure), the > > answerer MAY treat it as an immediate ICE processing failure or > > choose to wait for the peer reflexive candidates > > to arrive to perform the connectivity checks > > (see [draft-holmberg-ice-pac]. However, If no peer reflexive candidates > > arrive until the connectivity checks timesout, the ICE > > processing is considered as failure." > > > > On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 1:08 PM Christer Holmberg < > christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The new text says: > > > > “In certain scenarios when either no candidates were provided in the > > offer or all the provided candidates were discarded (say, due to > > unsupported address type or FQDN name resolution failure), the > > answerer MUST NOT consider this as immediate ICE processing failure > > but instead MUST wait for the peer reflexive candidates to arrive to > > carryout the connectivity checks or eventually time out on the > > connectivity checks (see [draft-holmberg-ice-pac]).” > > > > I don’t think we shall have these MUST NOT and MUST. > > > > As I have commented in the ICE WG, ICE PAC only gives guidance on how long > to wait before declaring ICE failure, but an agent is still allowed to > declare ICE failiure whenever it wants without being non-compliant with the > spec. > > > > Also, since ICE PAC is generic ICE, I don’t think ice-sip-sdp shall add > any normative text in addition to what is already included in ICE PAC. > > > > However, I do agree that referencing ICE PAC is a good idea, but perhaps > it’s enough to say that ICE PAC gives guidance. > > > > Regards, > > > > Christer > > > > > > *From: *mmusic <mmusic-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Flemming Andreasen < > fandreas@cisco.com> > *Date: *Monday, 20 May 2019 at 17.35 > *To: *"mmusic@ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org> > *Subject: *[MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Action: > draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-27.txt] > > > > Greetings MMUSIC > > We believe this version resolves all outstanding issues. This will be the > last chance to comment before we submit the document for Publication > Request. If you have any comments, please make sure to provide them to the > authors and the MMUSIC mailing list no later than Friday May 25. > > Thanks > > -- Flemming (as MMUSIC co-chair) > > On 5/19/19 12:43 AM, Suhas Nandakumar wrote: > > Version 27 has editorial changes for using the term connection address > instead of IP Address. > > > > Please let us know if you have any questions > > > > Cheers > > Suhas > > > > On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 9:42 PM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Multiparty Multimedia Session Control WG > of the IETF. > > Title : Session Description Protocol (SDP) Offer/Answer > procedures for Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) > Authors : Marc Petit-Huguenin > Suhas Nandakumar > Ari Keranen > Filename : draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-27.txt > Pages : 42 > Date : 2019-05-18 > > Abstract: > This document describes Session Description Protocol (SDP) Offer/ > Answer procedures for carrying out Interactive Connectivity > Establishment (ICE) between the agents. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-27 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-27 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-27 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mmusic mailing list > > mmusic@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > >
- Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Acti… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Acti… Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Acti… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Acti… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Acti… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Last chance to comment [Re: I-D Acti… Suhas Nandakumar