Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP-SDP: Virtual Connection impact

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Fri, 03 April 2015 14:40 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, "mmusic@ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [MMUSIC] SCTP-SDP: Virtual Connection impact
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP-SDP: Virtual Connection impact
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Hi,

>ISTM that a=connection:new is the better answer. The forbidding of this for SRTP-DTLS seems like a bug rather than a >feature. Does anyone know the reason for it?

I don't know the reason, but I ASSUME the reason was because the connection attribute was defined for a connection oriented transport (TCP), which SRTP-DTLS is not (well, at least it wasn't when SRTP-DTLS was defined - after that we got TCP-ICE etc).

In any case, I don't think it would be too late to allow usage of the attribute for SRTP-DTLS. It would be a straight forward mechanism, which could be used both in the ICE and non-ICE case. 

Regards,

Christer