Re: [MMUSIC] SDP Directorate review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-06
Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> Wed, 21 November 2012 08:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] SDP Directorate review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-06
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Hi, Paul: Thank for your valuable comments, please see my reply inline below. Regards! -Qin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Kyzivat" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> To: <mmusic@ietf.org>; <draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard@tools.ietf.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:42 PM Subject: [MMUSIC] SDP Directorate review of draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-06 >I am the assigned SDP directorate reviewer for > draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-06. For background on SDP > directorate, please see the FAQ at > <http://www.ietf.org/iesg/directorate/sdp.html>. > > Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before > posting a new version of the draft. > > * Summary: > > The SDP syntax defined in this draft is trivial and fine. > It exercises a defined extension point in RFC3611. That RFC defines an > IANA registry for new values using this extension point. This document > nominally supplies the information called for when registering. However, > the semantics for processing the new syntax is underspecified, and needs > to be further elaborated. > > * New SDP information elements: > > Section 5 of this draft augments the SDP attribute "rtcp-xr" defined in > RFC3611, providing an additional value: "brst-gap-dscrd". > > * Technical Issues: > > RFC3611 establishes an IANA registry for new values, and requires that > the following information be supplied when registering a new value: > > - Contact information of the one doing the registration, including > at least name, address, and email. > > - An Augmented Backus-Naur Form (ABNF) [2] definition of the > parameter, in accordance with the "format-ext" definition of > Section 5.1. > > - A description of what the parameter represents and how it shall be > interpreted, both normally and in Offer/Answer. > > The first two of the above are properly supplied. But the offer/answer > behavior is insufficiently specified. ("When SDP is used in offer-answer > context, the SDP Offer/Answer usage defined in [RFC3611] applies.") > > RFC3611 states: > > Each "rtcp-xr" parameter belongs to one of two categories. The first > category, the unilateral parameters, are for report blocks that > simply report on the RTP stream and related metrics. The second > category, collaborative parameters, are for XR blocks that involve > actions by more than one party in order to carry out their functions. > > It then goes on to give different offer/answer procedures for each > category of parameter. The reference in *this* draft ("the SDP > Offer/Answer usage defined in [RFC3611] applies") is insufficient > because there is no indication in this draft whether the new value is a > "unilateral" or "collaborative" parameter. > > The draft needs to be revised to address this issue. I *think* this new > parameter is a "unilateral" parameter. If so, it MAY be sufficient to > revise section 5.2 as follows: > > OLD: > When SDP is used in offer-answer context, the SDP Offer/Answer usage > defined in [RFC3611] applies. > > NEW: > When SDP is used in offer-answer context, the SDP Offer/Answer usage > defined in [RFC3611] for unilateral "rtcp-xr" attribute parameters > applies. [Qin]: Thank you for digging deeper into SDP offer answer usage for burst gap discard. I fully agree with you that the new value we defined here is "unilateral" parameter. And your proposed change looks reasonable to me. Thanks. > It may be useful to provide an expanded explanation. [Qin]: Maybe we can append one more sentence to your proposed change to say: " For detailed usage in Offer/Answer for unilateral parameter, refer to section 5.2 of RFC3611. " > Regards, > Paul Kyzivat