Re: [MMUSIC] FQDN Support Final Vote

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Fri, 24 May 2019 13:08 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] FQDN Support Final Vote
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Hi,

>I support that as well.
>
>Christer: I'm not clear on what your vote is right now.

My vote is to *not* support FQDN candidates, and add whatever text needed to explicitly indicate that.
Regards,
Christer

On 5/21/19 1:59 PM, Bernard Aboba wrote:
Personally, I like the suggested text from Christer and Roman because it explicitly states that if FQDNs are not supported then the candidates must be ignored.

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:26 AM Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com<mailto:suhasietf@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi All

  Below i have included 4 flavors of suggested text for FQDN support in ice-sip-sdp.  Let's agree on one and go with it (even it doesn't make us entirely happy)..


RFC5245 Version
"<connection-address>: is taken from RFC 4566<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4566> [RFC4566<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4566>]. It is the

      IP address of the candidate, allowing for IPv4 addresses, IPv6 addresses, and fully qualified domain names (FQDNs).  When parsing this field, an agent can differentiate an IPv4 address and an IPv6 address by presence of a colon in its value - the presence of a colon indicates IPv6.  An agent MUST ignore candidate lines that include candidates with IP address versions that are not supported or recognized.  An IP address SHOULD be used, but an FQDN MAY be used in place of an IP address.  In that case, when receiving an offer or answer containing an FQDN in an a=candidate attribute, the FQDN is looked up in the DNS first using an AAAA record (assuming the agent supports IPv6), and if no result is found or the agent only supports IPv4, using an A.  If the DNS query returns more than one IP address, one is chosen, and then used for the remainder of ICE processing.

ice-sip-sdp pre-22 version1



<connection-address>:  is taken from RFC 4566 [RFC4566].  It is the IP address of the candidate.  When parsing this field, an agent can differentiate an IPv4 address and an IPv6 address by presence of a colon in its value -- the presence of a colon indicates IPv6. An agent MUST ignore candidate lines that include candidates with IP address versions that are not supported or recognized.  An IP address SHOULD be used, but an FQDN MAY be used in place of an IP address.  In that case, when receiving an offer or answer containing an FQDN in an a=candidate attribute, the FQDN is looked up in the DNS first using an AAAA record (assuming the agent supports IPv6), and if no result is found or the agent only supports IPv4, using an A record.  The rules from section 6 of [RFC6724] is followed by fixing the source address to be one from the candidate pair to be matched against destination addresses

reported by FQDN, in cases where the DNS query returns more than one IP address.

ice-sip-sdp current version

<connection-address>:  is taken from RFC 4566 [RFC4566].  It is the

      IP address of the candidate.  When parsing this field, an agent

      can differentiate an IPv4 address and an IPv6 address by presence

      of a colon in its value -- the presence of a colon indicates IPv6.

      An agent MUST ignore candidate lines that include candidates with

      IP address versions that are not supported or recognized.  An IP

      address SHOULD be used, but an FQDN MAY be used in place of an IP

      address.  In that case, when receiving an offer or answer

      containing an FQDN in an a=candidate attribute, the FQDN is looked

      up in the DNS first using an AAAA record (assuming the agent

      supports IPv6), and if no result is found or the agent only

      supports IPv4, using an A record.  If a FQDN returns multiple IP

      addresses an agent MUST only use one of them throughout the

      duration of the ICE session.  Since an agent does not know whether

      the peer listens to the chosen IP address and port, it is

      RECOMMENDED to not use FQDNs that will resolve into multiple IP

      addresses.

Roman-Christer Version
<connection-address>: :: is taken from RFC 4566 <<RFC4566>>.. It is the IP address of the candidate, allowing for IPv4 addresses, IPv6 addresses,
and fully qualified domain names (FQDNs).  When parsing this field, an agent can differentiate  an IPv4 address and an IPv6 address by presence
of a colon in its value - the presence of a colon indicates IPv6.  An agent processing remote candidates MUST ignore candidate lines that include
candidates with FQDN or IP address versions that are not supported or recognized..  The procedures for handling FQDN candidates, and for agents
to indicate support of such procedures, need to be specified in an extension specification. If candidate with FQDN <connection-address> is the
default destination/candidate, the "c=" address type MUST be set the IP address family for the FQDN DNS resolution result and the "c=" connection
address MUST be set to FQDN. Differences in the "c=" line address family and type with FQDN resolution result MUST not cause ICE support verification failure.



My vote is on current version since it is backward compatible with a warning that using FQDN is not recommended since it MAY lead to failure.
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