Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft
Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Sat, 03 May 2014 13:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft
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Hi Harald I have taken a closer look at msid-05 and have a number of comments. I will list the major ones and/or what might require list discussion here and send you a bunch of more detailed ones in an annotated version off-line: 1) There are some grammar inconsistencies between the way you use token and (some) of the text you have. In general, it seems the length should be limited and the set of characters you want to allow are less than what token allows for. 2) Offer/Answer procedures are lacking. We need to have an O/A section with subsections as per RFC 3264 (for unicast) to better specify the overall behavior here (Generating the Initial Offer, Generating the Answer, Offerer Processing of the Answer, Modifying the Session) 3) There is some ambiguity as to what constitues an msid value and more specifically when it includes both the MediaStream identifier and the MediaStreamTrack and when (if ?) it doesn't. 4) Unified-plan is being referenced in a normative manner (but is listed as an informative reference). Since unified-plan is not expected to go to RFC, having a normative reference to it is problematic. Thanks -- Flemming On 3/6/14, 8:25 AM, Flemming Andreasen wrote: > I think the draft needs a bit more work in a few places (largely > editorial and more text on some of the procedures). I'll sign up to do > a pre-WGLC individual review to get you some more tangible and > constructive feedback on that. > > Thanks > > -- Flemming > > > On 3/6/14, 8:19 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: >> I have uploaded an updated msid draft, without the msid-control: >> section. >> >> As I said in the WG meeting, I think this is now uncontroversial, and >> should be ready for WG Last Call. >> >> I request that the WG chairs consider whether they agree with this >> opinion. >> > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Magnus Westerlund
- [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Flemming Andreasen
- [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] Updated MSID draft Christer Holmberg